PC gaming, why?
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BenM77

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193 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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As an xbox gamer (only since turning 30 4 years ago) I am just wondering what the benefit of pc gaming is when you can get a console so cheap, I have mine on a 50" plasma and love playing on a large screen.

I am asking this after reading the battlefield 3 thread

Ben

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1,867 posts

292 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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A Mouse & keyboard!

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

218 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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The only thing I can think of is that the graphics can be MUCH better and using a mouse and keyboard is 10 times better than a using a game controller in shooting games.

Not had a gaming PC for ages though - just too expensive.

MadRob6

3,594 posts

249 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Shay HTFC said:
The only thing I can think of is that the graphics can be MUCH better and using a mouse and keyboard is 10 times better than a using a game controller in shooting games.

Not had a gaming PC for ages though - just too expensive.
I upgrade my PC every so often but never with top of the range stuff (generally spend a tad over £100 on a graphics card rather than the insane £500) and it can run all the latest games on high or nearly high settings and with game purchases has worked out cheaper than playing the same amount of games on my PS3 or Xbox.

The only console games I really get are the ones limited purely to console or where the only PC version is a bad port, which is far too common.

I can also take my PC apart and have a tinker when I get bored wink

MattyB_

2,329 posts

286 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Comes down to customisation and flexibility really.

Mouse and Keyboard, Better graphics, cheaper games, more modification potential, lots of cheap & freebies (mods, indie games), proper multitasking (can alt-tab out to access anything).

But you pay for it in the fact that you'll be looking at spending £1000 every 3 years to keep things 'decent' graphically, but you can get away with 4 or maybe 5 years if you're happy to turn the detail down. Compare to £200-300 every 4-5 years for a console and its a big difference.

HOWEVER!

Bear in mind most console gamers will spend £500-600 on a laptop or PC anyway for non-gaming stuff. That, and PC gamers get significantly cheaper games, even on release. So its not all bad.

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Mouse/keyboard
possibility of better graphics
possibility of better sound
true 1080p on most modern games(if your gfx is up to it)
wider range of gaming peripherals - yes you can use your XB/PS controllers on a PC too

But as said above you will pay a premium. I generally refresh every 3-4 years cash permitting and spend £1000 on the internals.

That usally buys a pretty good machine, but by no means the best.

BenM77

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2,835 posts

193 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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MattyB_ said:
Comes down to customisation and flexibility really.

Mouse and Keyboard, Better graphics, cheaper games, more modification potential, lots of cheap & freebies (mods, indie games), proper multitasking (can alt-tab out to access anything).

But you pay for it in the fact that you'll be looking at spending £1000 every 3 years to keep things 'decent' graphically, but you can get away with 4 or maybe 5 years if you're happy to turn the detail down. Compare to £200-300 every 4-5 years for a console and its a big difference.

HOWEVER!

Bear in mind most console gamers will spend £500-600 on a laptop or PC anyway for non-gaming stuff. That, and PC gamers get significantly cheaper games, even on release. So its not all bad.
This is a good point on the fact that most people have a pc/laptop every five years anyway, i just can't see playing on my imac being as good as the plasma.

I guess it is personal preference, when i first got the xbox i was shockingly bad with the remote, hours and hours of practice soon sorted that :-)


chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I don't see any of the Total War or Civ games on console. We have a PS3, but is used mainly for Blu ray films now. I was so disappointed with GT5 - visuals not half as good as I hoped, and those load times! We also have a HTPC (quite powerful), so can play all games on our 50" HDTV, too.

ETA - Oh yes, three words - World of Tanks.

Edited by chris watton on Monday 13th June 18:33

BenM77

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2,835 posts

193 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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MattyB_ said:
Comes down to customisation and flexibility really.

Mouse and Keyboard, Better graphics, cheaper games, more modification potential, lots of cheap & freebies (mods, indie games), proper multitasking (can alt-tab out to access anything).

But you pay for it in the fact that you'll be looking at spending £1000 every 3 years to keep things 'decent' graphically, but you can get away with 4 or maybe 5 years if you're happy to turn the detail down. Compare to £200-300 every 4-5 years for a console and its a big difference.

HOWEVER!

Bear in mind most console gamers will spend £500-600 on a laptop or PC anyway for non-gaming stuff. That, and PC gamers get significantly cheaper games, even on release. So its not all bad.
This is a good point on the fact that most people have a pc/laptop every five years anyway, i just can't see playing on my imac being as good as the plasma.

I guess it is personal preference, when i first got the xbox i was shockingly bad with the remote, hours and hours of practice soon sorted that :-)


RobFerrari

793 posts

233 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I'm a big console gamer, have been for the past 10 or 11 years now but there are some games I just play on the PC whether that is for convenience or because they don't appear on console. Games like Sim City, Total War and Civ are only on computer and for a cross over game, trying to play Football Manager on the X360 is laughable compared to a PC. For some gamers, I respect how they take apart the computer and spec it right up to the hilt to play the latest and best games, but for myself I still have some computer based games because consoles either don't play them as efficiently or they do not appear on the consoles I own smile.

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

220 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Most of the reasons have already been covered, but I would add that if you like simulations a PC is a must. rFactor, iRacing, FSX etc. are all PC only.

In addition to that, many PC games have mods available that improve and extend the gameplay for free.

Sheets Tabuer

21,398 posts

244 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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For me it's about better GFX and more complex games (is there a flight sim for xbox?) I can play games with 20-30 buttons to press and have better precise control in things like an FPS.

I'd have argued that consoles are better for racing games but you can buy controllers for the PC.

OllieC

3,816 posts

243 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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SlipStream77 said:
Most of the reasons have already been covered, but I would add that if you like simulations a PC is a must. rFactor, iRacing, FSX etc. are all PC only.

In addition to that, many PC games have mods available that improve and extend the gameplay for free.
wot this man sed.

You cant mod games properly on consoles, I was part of a team that made a mod for Rfactor, I got as much enjoyment out of making the mod as I did driving it..

cant do this with consoles, plus for first person shooters, using a gamepad just seems utterly alien to me, as I am used to mouse and KB. Microsoft should release this for the Xbox to make fps better, I would buy one then.

Uzibat

28 posts

185 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Don't forget that FPSs are SO much better with a keyboard and mouse than they are with a controller!

Daston

6,148 posts

232 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Graphics and game play are right at the top. Plus most monitors run at a res above 1080p with a higher refresh rate. RTS games and sims just dont work on a console and developers can produce some stunning games that would melt an xbox and PS3. We are also getting to the point where once again PC hardway has stormed a head of what consoles can do.

OllieC

3,816 posts

243 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I'd have argued that consoles are better for racing games but you can buy controllers for the PC.
Only if you like arcade games and not realistic sims... imho smile

BenM77

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2,835 posts

193 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Thanks for all the answers, there is alot more to gaming than my obsession with frst person shooters :-)

can't wait for battlefield 3 as i think it will give the COD games some serious competition, just hope it is good for PC swell as consoles.

Ben

totlxtc

2,085 posts

188 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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BenM77 said:
can't wait for battlefield 3 as i think it will give the COD games some serious competition, just hope it is good for PC swell as consoles.

Ben
Get it on pc! I'd of knifed you and teabagged your dead virtual corpse before you have even got your sights on me. 2000dpi mouse and gaming keypad for the win hehe!

BenM77

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totlxtc said:
Get it on pc! I'd of knifed you and teabagged your dead virtual corpse before you have even got your sights on me. 2000dpi mouse and gaming keypad for the win hehe!
sorry but it took me long enough to get kind of good on xbox :-)

love the dog tag collection on bc1 and 2, hope this is in battlefield 3.


Zaxxon

4,057 posts

189 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I cant see BF3 looking anywhere near like it does in the preview vids when played on console. They are 6 yr old technology. Even my games PC will struggle and that has windows experience of 7.3 and runs Arma2 in max settings at 43fps