BMW one-up-manship
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Agoogy

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7,274 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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1 and 3 series coupes to become 2 and 4 respectively...

Great.... 130i's to drop a few more quid then...smile

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Agoogy said:
1 and 3 series coupes to become 2 and 4 respectively...

Great.... 130i's to drop a few more quid then...smile
Sorry I'm confused?, what do you mean 1 and 3 become 2 and 4?, have BMW rebranded them?.

Stu R

21,641 posts

244 months

homerjay

1,249 posts

254 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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surely theyd be 'totally' different cars wouldnt they?

ie the 6 is not a 5 coupe/convertible.

Agoogy

Original Poster:

7,274 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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They are planning to re-brand them and then charge a few extra quid for them in the same way an A5 is more than an A4.

Cotty

42,234 posts

313 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Why not just change the 1 to 3 and 3 to 5

zakelwe

4,449 posts

227 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Both Audi and BMW seem to think that all the numbers between 1 and 10 have to be filled with a niche model. What's the Audi A9 going to be? A8 with 7 doors??

Ramses

831 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Cotty said:
Why not just change the 1 to 3 and 3 to 5
Because that would be stupid? wink

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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zakelwe said:
Both Audi and BMW seem to think that all the numbers between 1 and 10 have to be filled with a niche model. What's the Audi A9 going to be? A8 with 7 doors??
An A8 coupe, later followed by a 4-door version that is absolutely not a hatchback.

Ramses

831 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Back on topic - I think it's a good idea, for Audi as well.

Even numbers for 4-doors/saloons, odd numbers for 2-doors/coupes. Audi just f*ck it up by adding a 4-door A5/S5.

At the moment a 330d could be one of 4 cars (Saloon/Estate/Coupe/Conv), one of 8 cars if you include MSport. To differentiate, especially as even with the current 3-series, the coupe looks very different from the saloon, is a good thing. It will also give the flexibility to make the 4-series (3-series coupe) even more different.

It's not an unusual concept, the 6-series has always been a coupe version of the 5-series - and all the better for not being a 5-series coupe.


Merc have the same problem. What's an E350? Could be a saloon, or an estate. Could also be a c-class based coupe, or a c-class based convertible. Talk about brand confusion.

r11co

6,244 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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And to think at one time a two door 3 series cost less that the equivalent four door model......

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

224 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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homerjay said:
surely theyd be 'totally' different cars wouldnt they?

ie the 6 is not a 5 coupe/convertible.
The 6 is a 5 series coupe/convertible surely?

Ramses

831 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Mr Dave said:
The 6 is a 5 series coupe/convertible surely?
Under the skin, perhaps. But not in the same was as the 3 series saloon/coupe.

Taking that ethos down to the 3 (and making the coupe the 4) gives scope for a more bespoke car and hopefully a more driver centric one.

Can't really be anything other than a good thing??

JohnnyRims

900 posts

188 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Ramses said:
Taking that ethos down to the 3 (and making the coupe the 4) gives scope for a more bespoke car and hopefully a more driver centric one.
Do you reckon that's what will happen?

Ramses

831 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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JohnnyRims said:
Do you reckon that's what will happen?
Already is to an extent. The coupe spec is a higher spec than the saloon.


anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzpsO4ErOQ

Edited by Breadvan73 on Tuesday 14th June 18:36

ex vtskid

347 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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So will there be no M3 coupe then? Just an M3 saloon and an M4? Doesn't quite have the same ring to it!

breadvan

2,120 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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ex vtskid said:
So will there be no M3 coupe then? Just an M3 saloon and an M4? Doesn't quite have the same ring to it!
Oooh, good point.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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breadvan said:
ex vtskid said:
So will there be no M3 coupe then? Just an M3 saloon and an M4? Doesn't quite have the same ring to it!
Oooh, good point.
Very good point :yes;

"What do you drive?"

"M4"

"No I said what do you drive not where do you drive"

bobthemonkey

4,206 posts

245 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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This story seems to do the rounds every couple of years. No idea if it is more grounded in reality this time.