UK Speed limits for trucks - who knows them?

[R0G]

A few truck drivers who have been on speed awareness courses have stated that many of the car drivers on those courses did not know the UK speed limits for LGVs (old HGVs) on various types of roads

So...... how many on here know what those limits are? - just curious

And any other truck stuff.............

Edited by R0G on Tuesday 14th June 17:59

[kambites]

I think...

Single carriageway = 40mph
Dual carriageway = 50mph
Motorway = 60mph

(or the stated limit, whichever is lower, obviously).

[DannyVTS]

kambites said:

I think...

Single carriageway = 40mph
Dual carriageway = 50mph
Motorway = 60mph

(or the stated limit, whichever is lower, obviously).

I thought that too, but I also thought LGV was light goods vehicle and HGV heavy good vehicle?

[kambites]

DannyVTS said:

I thought that too, but I also thought LGV was light goods vehicle and HGV heavy good vehicle?

Ah, I didn't even spot that he said LGV.

[R11ysf]

I would have gone for 50, 50 and 60 but Kambites is correct.

One of those things you never need to know until you do!!

[DannyVTS]

Actually Wiki now says LGV is large goods vehicle...

anyone want to explain the difference? With pics?

[roachcoach]

DannyVTS said:

Actually Wiki now says LGV is large goods vehicle...

anyone want to explain the difference? With pics?

Motorway definition is a bit squiffy, but barring that its bang on (or bloody should be, it is a police imagine on a police site!)

[kambites]

Ah, I thought HGV="heavy good vehicle" and LGV="light good vehicle". In that case I stand by my 40, 50, 60 answer.

[AJI]

I do and I'm amazed at the percentage of truck drivers (HGV that is) that do not do 40mph on single carriageway 'A' roads.

Taken from first google link:
http://www.smartdriving.co.uk/Driving/DefensiveDri...

I've even followed police cars that are behind HGVs doing 55mph on single carriageway 'A' roads, no action taken.

[V88Dicky]

If the speed limit for LGVs is 60mph on a motorway, why are they limited to 56?

[roachcoach]

almost bang on 90 km/h...betting that is the continental limit.

[R0G]

DannyVTS said:

Actually Wiki now says LGV is large goods vehicle...

anyone want to explain the difference? With pics?

No need for pics

Under the old UK licence system there were categories called HGV = Heavy Goods Vehicles and these were class3 class2 and class1
class 3 was a rigid 2 axled lorry weihing over 7.5 tonnes and included pulling a trailer (drag)
class 2 was a rigid lorry with more than 2 axles over 7.5 tonnes and included pulling a trailer (drag)
class 1 was articulated - only class 1 could drive an artic unit without a trailer

In the early 90s we adopted the EU licence system
LGV = Large goods vehicle and includes everything over 3.5 tonnes but has not be classed as PCV
LGV C1 = any rigid vehicle over 3.5 to 7.5 tonnes
LGV C = any rigid vehicle over 7.5 tonnes and that inludes an unmodified artic unit
LGV C+E = any LGV C with a trailer over 750kgs

Does that help?

[R0G]

V88Dicky said:

If the speed limit for LGVs is 60mph on a motorway, why are they limited to 56?

EU regulations (law) for the setting of speed limiters

[sclayto2]

roachcoach said:

Motorway definition is a bit squiffy, but barring that its bang on (or bloody should be, it is a police imagine on a police site!)

Pity people don't know about those limits with trailers on. I've recently seen lots of towing cars in the outside lane and/or well over 70mph.

[V88Dicky]

R0G said:

No need for pics

Under the old UK licence system there were categories called HGV = Heavy Goods Vehicles and these were class3 class2 and class1
class 3 was a rigid 2 axled lorry weihing over 7.5 tonnes and included pulling a trailer (drag)
class 2 was a rigid lorry with more than 2 axles over 7.5 tonnes and included pulling a trailer (drag)
class 1 was articulated - only class 1 could drive an artic unit without a trailer

In the early 90s we adopted the EU licence system
LGV = Large goods vehicle and includes everything over 3.5 tonnes but has not be classed as PCV
LGV C1 = any rigid vehicle over 3.5 to 7.5 tonnes
LGV C = any rigid vehicle over 7.5 tonnes and that inludes an unmodified artic unit
LGV C+E = any LGV C with a trailer over 750kgs

Does that help?

Not like the Euros to come up with something nice and complicated, eh?

[R0G]

Just to muddy the waters a little ---
LGV on a NSL road with 2 lanes in each direction seperated by a double white line - what speed for LGV?
And what speed for car?

[kambites]

R0G said:

Just to muddy the waters a little ---
LGV on a NSL road with 2 lanes in each direction seperated by a double white line - what speed for LGV?
And what speed for car?

40 and 60 respectively.

[roachcoach]

R0G said:

Just to muddy the waters a little ---
LGV on a NSL road with 2 lanes in each direction seperated by a double white line - what speed for LGV?
And what speed for car?

going by the local authority 'round here....30. Maybe 20.

[R0G]

kambites said:

40 and 60 respectively.

Someone knows their stuff

[kambites]

R0G said:

kambites said:

40 and 60 respectively.

Someone knows their stuff

It is interesting where the boundary lies. What about a road with solid double white lines with hashings between them? When does one carriageway become two? I don't think the highway code clearly defines this.