Selling 2 properties in a tax efficient manner..
Selling 2 properties in a tax efficient manner..
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danp

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1,650 posts

286 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Wonder if anyone can kindly advise on CGT implications of the following, we have:

Flat 1 - purchased 10 years ago and I have lived in it ever since.
Flat 2 - purchased 1.5 years ago and has been rented out most of that time.

Looking to sell both at same time (as they can potentially be converted into a house, and I think would be worth more than the 2 x flats sold individually).

So.. prior to selling we're thinking of moving into Flat 2, and nominating that as primary residence.

Believe we have to make such a nomination within 2 years of buying the 2nd flat.

Something along these lines:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8067929.stm

http://www.taxinsider.co.uk/property_tax_insider-a...

- Are there any time scales as to how long I have to live in Flat 2 for it to be main residence? (couldn't see anything)

- Any other particular implications ref the above?

Even if we don't sell them we are thinking of moving into flat 2 anyway, as it's ground floor and will be easier with our 1yr old toddler.

Both flats are in my name, though I did get married in March this year.

Planning to go and see a tax accountant next week, but any advice here would be welcome.

TIA, Dan

m4ckg

625 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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I may be wrong but I thought you had to live in a residence for 6 months to get away with paying CGT

Paul Drawmer

5,122 posts

291 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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danp said:
...Flat 2 - purchased 1.5 years ago...
How much taxable gain are you expecting?

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

252 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Just a thought...

if you done the conversion yourself, it would be worth more (if you are correct) and it would have been your main residence for 10 years. Just, extended...

55allgold

519 posts

182 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Paul Drawmer said:
How much taxable gain are you expecting?
This. With property prices relatively stable/falling, and by the time you account for all of the flat's purchasing and selling costs I'd have thought that there wouldn't be very much actual gain.

The various lettings-related relief, etc may also help reduce liability. (It's 4 years since I sold my flat in similar circumstances, and I was amazed by how little CT I was liable for after taking into account all of the relevant reliefs).

I doubt it would be necessary (for CGT reasons) to move into the other flat for any length of time.

danp

Original Poster:

1,650 posts

286 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Thanks for the replies, would anticipate a pretty decent gain, let's say enough to buy a very nice sports car, but not a supercar. ;-)

Thus definitely worth me looking into the scenario I mentioned, does anyone have any more insights?

Yep, Plan B might be to do the conversion ourselves, but could be a bit too much of a project for us.

Thx, Dan

rfisher

5,056 posts

307 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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'Flat 2 - purchased 1.5 years ago and has been rented out most of that time.'

CGT = 0 for the last 3 years when you rent a property.

Sell away.

55allgold

519 posts

182 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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danp said:
does anyone have any more insights?
To repeat: you absolutely MUST look into the actual reliefs available for lettings-related CGT. My circumstances were a bit different to yours and my info is potentially out-of-date (I sold in 2007), but I did pay an accountant to work it out properly. Best money I spent; result was a very low CGT bill on a flat that gone from £xx,xxx to £3xx,xxx.

I'd be very surprised if you had any CGT to pay (if only because of the relief mentioned by the poster above).