Car Tax = Thieving B*******DS
Car Tax = Thieving B*******DS
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Challo

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12,711 posts

184 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Just had my car tax renewel drop through the letter box....and its now up to 245 for 12months..!! I swear it was £210 6months ago?

Have the government decided to increase the prices? Or have they reclassified the gradings again?

Stuck with a slow, under powered astra thats in a high tax bracket. Doesn't seem worth it...

LuS1fer

43,509 posts

274 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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I think this applied to cars registered after March 2006. A friend of mine bought a 2005 car for this very reason.

Don't worry, you'll be working until you're 66 to pay for it.

Challo

Original Poster:

12,711 posts

184 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Mines a 2005 astra??

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Challo said:
I swear it was £210 6months ago?
The cost of your current VED should be shown on the disc itself.

Mr Sparkle

1,935 posts

199 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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First year rate for cars over 255g/km is now £1000, and £460/year after that.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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I feel your pain.

I had an RX300, not especially bad on fuel or anything, but emissions werent great! And expensive to tax. Chopped it and the wife's Mini Cooper S (again, not great on emissions) for a BMW diesel. £115 for the year but has 204BHP!

I know its satans fuel, but I dont see it ever being cheaper. So time to swallow my pride and be sensible. Ok, gone from 2 cars to 1, but quartered my car tax liability.... madness.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

238 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Wow, £30 extra. For a whole year?

Don't go near a petrol station, you might cry...

mp3manager

4,254 posts

225 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Challo said:
Just had my car tax renewel drop through the letter box....and its now up to 245 for 12months..!! I swear it was £210 6months ago?

Have the government decided to increase the prices? Or have they reclassified the gradings again?

Stuck with a slow, under powered astra thats in a high tax bracket. Doesn't seem worth it...
In the grand scheme of things a £35 increase, (about half-a-tank of fuel in current prices), over 12 months is not worth getting worked up about.

FWIW, my DC5 is £210 p.a.

Winner winner chicken dinner! \0/

Challo

Original Poster:

12,711 posts

184 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Gizmo! said:
Wow, £30 extra. For a whole year?

Don't go near a petrol station, you might cry...
Its the principle....government upping it £30 in a year...when the local roads near where I live are a mess. Potholes everywhere, and 1 dual carriage way has had the top layer stripped off and chippings put down. Been like it for 3 weeks with a 20mph speed limit.


nelly1

5,665 posts

260 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Challo said:
Gizmo! said:
Wow, £30 extra. For a whole year?

Don't go near a petrol station, you might cry...
Its the principle....government upping it £30 in a year...when the local roads near where I live are a mess. Potholes everywhere, and 1 dual carriage way has had the top layer stripped off and chippings put down. Been like it for 3 weeks with a 20mph speed limit.
It's Car Tax, not Road Tax.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Challo said:
Its the principle....government upping it £30 in a year.
I am almost certain the current VED rates were set by the other lot.

DickSkruttock

4,552 posts

197 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
I have no object to the price of car tax. I have lots of objections to the fact none of it seems to get spent on the potholed dirt tracks that masquerade as roads...
Couldn't agree more smile

SubaruSteve

546 posts

220 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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My personal complaint is the pure unfairness of the system.

If you produce 101 co2s at your exhaust pipe you pay £20 per year

If you produce 202 co2s you pay £250 per year, over 12 times as much for producing double.

If you produce 303 co2s you pay £450 per year, over 22 times as much for producing triple.

I really struggle to understand such a ridiculous scale.

B'stard Child

31,093 posts

275 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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DickSkruttock said:
The Crack Fox said:
I have no object to the price of car tax. I have lots of objections to the fact none of it seems to get spent on the potholed dirt tracks that masquerade as roads...
Couldn't agree more smile
But none of the revenue has been spent on roads for years (AFAIAA) - that's why it was renamed VED..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Excise_Duty

B'stard Child

31,093 posts

275 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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SubaruSteve said:
My personal complaint is the pure unfairness of the system.

If you produce 101 co2s at your exhaust pipe you pay £20 per year

If you produce 202 co2s you pay £250 per year, over 12 times as much for producing double.

If you produce 303 co2s you pay £450 per year, over 22 times as much for producing triple.

I really struggle to understand such a ridiculous scale.
How do you struggle with that........ Nothing fair about it - it's designed to get you out of your gas guzzler and into a smaller less poluting vehicle.....

Of course if we all did that........ laugh

SubaruSteve

546 posts

220 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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B'stard Child said:
How do you struggle with that........ Nothing fair about it - it's designed to get you out of your gas guzzler and into a smaller less poluting vehicle.....

Of course if we all did that........ laugh
It worked

LuS1fer

43,509 posts

274 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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My 460hp Mustang is £210 - my crappy Golf is £245 if it helps....

Challo

Original Poster:

12,711 posts

184 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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B'stard Child said:
How do you struggle with that........ Nothing fair about it - it's designed to get you out of your gas guzzler and into a smaller less poluting vehicle.....

Of course if we all did that........ laugh
So im not in a gas guzzler...standard 1.8 does about 34mpg. Just vauxhall made it with sh*t emmissions lol

otolith

68,840 posts

233 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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What grates about graduated VED is that there is already a mechanism by which everyone pays tax in direct proportion to the amount of carbon dioxide they actually emit, rather than the amount they theoretically could emit. It's called fuel duty.

B'stard Child

31,093 posts

275 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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SubaruSteve said:
B'stard Child said:
How do you struggle with that........ Nothing fair about it - it's designed to get you out of your gas guzzler and into a smaller less poluting vehicle.....

Of course if we all did that........ laugh
It worked
Didn't work for me

Fuel costs hugely outweigh the VED costs.