The £10,000 question....
The £10,000 question....
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Mr Knight

Original Poster:

56 posts

183 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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First post & thread so mite aswell say howdy first!! I have been a frequent browser of Pistonheads for a couple of years and skimmed the forum a few times (work times) but now registered as I'm need of some mixed & unbiased advice.

Basically I have now reached the first 'milestone' with regards to driving experience of 3 years along with being raped by insurance companies & not claiming for 3 years and finally reaching my 21st birthday this week. All of this along with my modest promotion in work has finally allowed me to consider upgrading from my Veyron-shaming Earth-stopping-torque beast of a Corsa 1.7CDTI to something a bit sportier and now I have hit the dilemma of what to go for.

Looking for something thats:

  • Hatchback (when I hit 30 I'll consider saloon, 40 an estate, 50 a people carrier and finally a gold Daewoo Matiz when I hit 60)
  • Minimum of a 1.6 engine (turbocharged of course, as anything to aid in the suck-squeeze-bang-blow of small displacement motors other than strapping a pack of steroid-overdosed greyhounds to the front is more than welcome)
  • No older than late 2007 (atleast I can try and pretend that I owned it from new while looking as swish as a blind bomb technician)
  • Rather 'rapid' as the Frosty Jack swigging hoodies would yell from the street corner (along with a bolt-on 'laaaaaaa' or 'likkkeee' at the end of every sentence)
  • Easy to tune so that when the time arises when I become bored with the grunt of the standard model I can then get in to a depressed frenzy of deciding whether to do the sensible thing and upgrade to something better, or modify the breasticles out of this car in to a little monster.
So what would people recommend and if they are owners of said vehicles then please give your impressions and likes of them so I can get a good idea of what I can get for my £10-12k????

kiethton

14,647 posts

209 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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My money would be on something turbocharged so it can just be re-mapped when you get bored. Focus ST/Golf GTi/Astra VXR if you want to keep it in the VX family.

On the other hand something like a BMW 130i may be slightly better, it has the badge and RWD although not the tuning potential (also for 10k it may be an 06 car, you may get a 07 for 12k though)


Edited by kiethton on Monday 20th June 22:20

tyranical

927 posts

219 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Pretty much any 3 year old hatchback you want...

Focus ST
VW Golf GTI
Cooper S
Ibiza Cupra
Leon FR
Corsa VXR

etc..

PaulGT3

377 posts

201 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Clio 200 or 197 R27

tyranical

927 posts

219 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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PaulGT3 said:
Clio 200 or 197 R27
Read the last point, these 2 do not fit into that unless you classify easy to tune as spending st loads for fk all.

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

195 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Nice first post - you'll fit in well here .

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

212 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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MX5? hehe

SLK could come in under budget. Plenty of tuning potential, badge and proper wheel drive.

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Mazda 3 MPS?

Feck loads of go for comaparatively little cash.

Or a Megane Sport 225/230. The big arsed one. Fun with a capital F

Mr Knight

Original Poster:

56 posts

183 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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I did look towards the Clio 200 as I think they look rather snazzy (I wear luminescent striped socks to work so my views tend to be a little different from everyones taste) but then it occured that I was a little intimidated by the French car image of 'Tom Greens mental state is better built than a French car' and plus as has been said you could spend all of your girlfiends recently deceased grandparents funeral fund on tuning it and you will still not have anything to excuse it.

Any personal reviews along with these cars? Also been looking at the likes of Suzuki Swifts, Mini Cooper JCW R56's, Seat Leon Cupras, Mazda 3 MPS's and other turbo hot hatches that are not as frequently seen these days.

B'stard Child

31,099 posts

275 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Synchromesh said:
Nice first post - you'll fit in well here .
+1

Mr Knight said:
* Hatchback (when I hit 30 I'll consider saloon, 40 an estate, 50 a people carrier and finally a gold Daewoo Matiz when I hit 60
You seem to have it all mapped out

Just get some insurance quotes on prospective vehicles first - I reckon it's still gonna hurt a little


Mr Knight

Original Poster:

56 posts

183 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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I have gotten an idea of what I will be expecting insurance to be on a hot hatch.

It will still be a full swing kick to the plums, but turning 21 has removed the steel toe capped boot and replaced it with a canvas Tom.

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

196 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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Mazda 3 MPS by a mile. biggrin

Mr Knight

Original Poster:

56 posts

183 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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I have read in to the 3MPS (mark 2) and they are apparently one of the spoiled underdogs of the hot hatch genre, shame they didn't add the 4 wheel drive system from the 6MPS as I bet that would be something thats not far off a scooby doo!!

Any personal opinions/reviews of the already said motor vehicles?

V100

1,421 posts

185 months

Monday 20th June 2011
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dougc said:
Mazda 3 MPS?

Feck loads of go for comaparatively little cash.

Or a Megane Sport 225/230. The big arsed one. Fun with a capital F
This man speak the truth.

Mr Knight

Original Poster:

56 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Indeed he may.

I'll start at the bottom and work my way up to see what people say: Any people have experience with the lower size engines of the scale (1.6t).

Personal thoughts, likes, dislikes etc

Tuvra

7,926 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Missus has a Mini Cooper S on an 08 plate. Its a great car with a very responsive engine! I believe a new intercooler, exhaust and remap would see 220bhp comfortably and reliably. I think they look more special than the other smaller hot hatches.

I'd love a fully souped JCW with black everything, trim, roof, wheels etc!! Maybe red calipers then!

Mr Knight

Original Poster:

56 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Do admit I have a soft spot for the Mini JCW and have heard many say its a very strong engine that responds very well to bolt-on mods.

Only downside is the feminine image they seem to have and an engineer driving one of those around could go either way!

gollan82

28 posts

184 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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'07 Golf R32?

I had a Mini Cooper S when I was 21, great fun but u do need to put up with the hairdresser comments, company called Lohen specialize in tuning Mini.

Jasandjules

72,600 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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What about pushing the envelope and getting a TVR V8s? You might be able to get one on a classic policy for insurance purposes, and it'll be original, sound lovely and the roof comes off too......... Not 3rs old etc but that will fade into insignificance when you start the V8 up.... Or if you can get a Chimaera insured on a classic policy........

Tuvra

7,926 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Seriously? He mentioned hot hatches under 1.6 then we escalate into Focus ST's, R32 Golf's & V8 TVR's rolleyes

As we are disregarding all needs, how about: MX5? 535/335d Mapped or how about an V8 M5?