Nissan Leaf
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AnotherClarkey

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3,698 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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I am seeing quite a few Nissan Leaves on the road now and I have to say that they look rather good in the metal - certainly a damn sight better than I expected and much more pleasant than the new Focus.

CambsBill

2,455 posts

207 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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AnotherClarkey said:
I am seeing quite a few Nissan Leaves on the road now and I have to say that they look rather good in the metal - certainly a damn sight better than I expected and much more pleasant than the new Focus.
With an 8 mile commute to work and zero company car tax I actually got as far as asking what the lease rates were, thinking if they were low enough I'd get some cash top-up as well - let's face it to have an almost free car for the daily grind whilst keeping something a bit more fun for the weekend isn't too awful a prospect.

£550 a month was the price. End of interest . . .

Laurel Green

31,123 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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Wait until the Autumn when prices are expected to fall. wink

Bonefish Blues

36,486 posts

252 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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Hasn't appeared on our company car list yet, nor will Nissan UK let us have one to play with, despite asking lots and having a reasonable sized fleet.

They can't be selling that well, can they - I've only seen one on the road so far.

sawman

5,168 posts

259 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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Laurel Green said:
Wait until the Autumn when prices are expected to fall. wink
Doh! should have got up sooner

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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The funny thing is that to make the sums work you have to drive the Leaf about 30k miles a year to make the fuel outweigh the extra purchase price.

But you can't do 30k miles a year in one, because there aren't enough hours in the day to charge the bloody thing up!

Bonefish Blues

36,486 posts

252 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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mnkiboy said:
The funny thing is that to make the sums work you have to drive the Leaf about 30k miles a year to make the fuel outweigh the extra purchase price.

But you can't do 30k miles a year in one, because there aren't enough hours in the day to charge the bloody thing up!
Interestingly, my daily commute is 55 miles each way, with recharge ability at both ends, and we tend to use the MX5 at the weekends, which is why I'm keen to try one.

In my very specific situation, it could be a viable option, and reduce my (company car) costs over the Prius.

CambsBill

2,455 posts

207 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
CambsBill said:
£550 a month was the price. End of interest . . .
Out of interest, how much would a Fiat 500 TwinAir be ? These look great.
Haven't got one on the fleet. We've got a Multijet and that costs £316/month, so cash top-up would more than cover the tax that would be payable. The attraction of the Leaf, though, would have been the abillity to think nice thoughts about HMRC whenever you're driving it biggrin

Also, I'm one of those weird people who tries to buy stuff that's made in the UK these days (which the Leaf will be). Price & quality have to be right, of course, but in the car sector there are plenty of cars coming out of UK factories that would suit my needs & tastes so why give a job to a foreigner?

AnotherClarkey

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3,698 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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I don't know what the situation is in the UK re. Leaf sightings but here in San Diego I am seeing at least 2 or 3 a day on the roads - which strikes me as slightly odd given that petrol is less than half the price here and the economics must be harder to justify.

mattbvw

375 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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I drove one last night - my first time in an EV - and was very pleasantly surprised by it. The range will drop from that figure if you don't drive it like a saint but I found the eery silence of it all made me actually very conscious of my surroundings and of driving it very smoothly. The indicators on the dash also encourage you to drive sensibly - reminded me of a 21st century version of eeeking out the most mpg out of my old Golfs' MFA trip computers.

They're expensive but worth a look if your lifestyle fits with it. The Renault Fluence and Zoe EVs are expected to be a few thousands less than the Leaf...

Terminator X

20,579 posts

233 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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Terminator X

20,579 posts

233 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
Out of interest, how much would a Fiat 500 TwinAir be ? These look great.
Seen this for £189 deposit then £189 p/m ...

TX.

RenesisEvo

3,826 posts

248 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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mattbvw said:
I drove one last night - my first time in an EV - and was very pleasantly surprised by it. The range will drop from that figure if you don't drive it like a saint but I found the eery silence of it all made me actually very conscious of my surroundings and of driving it very smoothly. The indicators on the dash also encourage you to drive sensibly - reminded me of a 21st century version of eeeking out the most mpg out of my old Golfs' MFA trip computers.
Indeed I had a go at a Sunday Service, it was very serene to drive as you say, and there was a surprising amount of initial poke, but obviously that tended to dent the range somewhat. Didn't handle too badly but you could tell there was a fair amount of mass, although fairly well balanced. My only major complaint other than the range is that it is a big car, perhaps too big for what is intended to be a commuter tool (according to the Nissan marketing guys). If they could make it smaller, it would be lighter - and perhaps give more range (but you have to fit all the batteries in, perhaps that's why it's so big)

CambsBill

2,455 posts

207 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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The Crack Fox said:
CambsBill said:
The Crack Fox said:
CambsBill said:
£550 a month was the price. End of interest . . .
Out of interest, how much would a Fiat 500 TwinAir be ? These look great.
Haven't got one on the fleet. We've got a Multijet and that costs £316/month, so cash top-up would more than cover the tax that would be payable. The attraction of the Leaf, though, would have been the abillity to think nice thoughts about HMRC whenever you're driving it biggrin

Also, I'm one of those weird people who tries to buy stuff that's made in the UK these days (which the Leaf will be). Price & quality have to be right, of course, but in the car sector there are plenty of cars coming out of UK factories that would suit my needs & tastes so why give a job to a foreigner?
That's not weird, buyin British makes sense, but I'm sure I read somewhere that the all first Leafs (leaves ?) are made in Japan, not Sunderland.
You read right, if I had one it wouldn't be just yet

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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RenesisEvo said:
mattbvw said:
I drove one last night - my first time in an EV - and was very pleasantly surprised by it. The range will drop from that figure if you don't drive it like a saint but I found the eery silence of it all made me actually very conscious of my surroundings and of driving it very smoothly. The indicators on the dash also encourage you to drive sensibly - reminded me of a 21st century version of eeeking out the most mpg out of my old Golfs' MFA trip computers.
Indeed I had a go at a Sunday Service, it was very serene to drive as you say, and there was a surprising amount of initial poke, but obviously that tended to dent the range somewhat. Didn't handle too badly but you could tell there was a fair amount of mass, although fairly well balanced. My only major complaint other than the range is that it is a big car, perhaps too big for what is intended to be a commuter tool (according to the Nissan marketing guys). If they could make it smaller, it would be lighter - and perhaps give more range (but you have to fit all the batteries in, perhaps that's why it's so big)
Make it half the price, half the number of seats and half the amount of glitter and i would buy one tomorrow.


No thats a lie i've got the lawn to cut tomorrow

But I'd buy one on Monday

mattbvw

375 posts

244 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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RenesisEvo said:
My only major complaint other than the range is that it is a big car, perhaps too big for what is intended to be a commuter tool
The Renault Zoe looks like it'll be a size smaller... perhaps a better compromise. The Leaf is fairly large car. The forthcoming Renault Fluence will be big (4 door saloon) too.

RichyBoy

3,749 posts

246 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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Battery longevity and cost of replacement - why does nobody discuss these issues or will it be standard practice to give it back when the contract expires?

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Make it half the price, half the number of seats and half the amount of glitter and i would buy one tomorrow.
That also applies to just about any decent car on the market though. I'd be first in the queue for a two door, low-spec 20 grand Jaguar XF. . . . . biggrin

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Saw one on the road today and it was keeping up with traffic, it had its lights on, it was being driven by a guy in a suit not a hippy and he stopped next to a SUV at the traffic lights and didn't jump out of it screaming at the driver that he was a planet killing bd.

And its better looking then a golf

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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mattbvw said:
RenesisEvo said:
My only major complaint other than the range is that it is a big car, perhaps too big for what is intended to be a commuter tool
The Renault Zoe looks like it'll be a size smaller... perhaps a better compromise. The Leaf is fairly large car. The forthcoming Renault Fluence will be big (4 door saloon) too.
If it was any smaller, it wouldn't have a market in the USA, which is where I am presuming it is expecting to find a lot of customers.