Whats the point?
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sam6sic6

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11 posts

186 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Firstly let me say sorry for the following rant.

Yesterday while driving on some local A and B roads, I had to wonder is there any point in having a fun car for use on the public roads?

Now I have only got a mk1 mx5 so is economical enough but what you could call a fast car.

I found I spent the entire journey sat behind people who were sitting at 20 mph under the speed limit, and when the road did eventualy clear out I had no confidence to push on at all as I was concerned about cyclists being round every bend. Motorbikes however seem to have no problem flying round blind bends far to fast on the wrong side of the road.

So is there any point anymore of having something you can have fun and handles well or had we all may aswell just drive round in something dull doing 50 mpg?


jezzaaa

1,950 posts

288 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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There's absolutely a great reason for having a fun car. There are less chances than there used to be for enjoying it, of course, but there are still opportunities for hooning. Think positively!

ludicrous speed

959 posts

223 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Yeh you're right, we should all buy cheap stheaps to travel to our boring jobs so that we can spend our earnings on other things like... err.. other stuff we don't need.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

214 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Get out on the roads early in the morning or late at night.. those are the times to enjoy yourself smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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sam6sic6 said:
...and when the road did eventualy clear out I had no confidence to push on at all as I was concerned about cyclists being round every bend...
You overtake on bends?

ludicrous speed

959 posts

223 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Chicane-UK said:
Get out on the roads early in the morning or late at night.. those are the times to enjoy yourself smile
Exactly, you can't drive like a hooligan during the day, it's just not worth the risk. 3am however evil

kambites

71,473 posts

250 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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sam6sic6 said:
... and when the road did eventualy clear out I had no confidence to push on at all as I was concerned about cyclists being round every bend.
Nothing has changed here, though - you've always had to go around bends at a speed from which you can stop if there is something stationary in the road. That's just part of driving.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Once a year about this time I get up at dawn and go for a really proper hoon.

The memory of it sustains me for the rest of the year of being stuck behind numpties.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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sam6sic6 said:
...I spent the entire journey sat behind people who were sitting at 20 mph under the speed limit...
This is the crux of the problem. There should be points "awarded" for driving too far below the speed limit and causing an obstruction. Just like the guy in the 10 foot wide Lex LS460 yesterday who was doing 32mph for maybe 15 miles of backroads (well, non-A roads), and who tended to wander across the white line whenever there were any straights for overtaking.
You could almost lip-read him repeating the mantra "35 is fast enough for me, I am in no hurry, and you are not overtaking me".

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Early morning drives are the key (and trackdays).

That said, getting out of the crowded South (+East especially) is another decent solution.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Ah you have discovered precisely why I supercharged my 5.

A standard 5 is superb on the open road but hasn't got the power to get past lines of traffic in the typically short gaps you find.

Boost it to 200bhp and it's a different story.

However yes there are more dullards around than ever so to have real fun you must go out early or late or just take less popular routes.

tucks

558 posts

193 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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i cant use the monaro on small twisty roads, id get wedged.

the fun is being taken out of driving in many aspects, the law, fuel prices amount of traffic. still worth having a car that isnt a 100bhp FWD generic euro hatch, even if its just for occasional track use. id rather blow my own head off than be forced to concide i dont really need any of my cars apart from my Stlio derv.

Hudson

1,857 posts

216 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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early morning hooning 6:30 sunday before an airsoft game, town was like something out of dawn of the dead.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Having said what I said above, this year's trip took me to remotest Exmoor, where at 0600 I - and another car - were stuck behind a middle aged man and woman driving a cooking Golf at 10-20 mph below the limit for about five miles.

You just can't avoid them.

zaphod42

59,427 posts

184 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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MX5, 5am, Yorkshire Dales roads.

Nothing but sheep and the odd milk tanker to worry about.

:-)

V88Dicky

7,368 posts

212 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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tucks said:
i cant use the monaro on small twisty roads, id get wedged.
You're right.

The Monaro is far better suited to fast, cross-country A roads, with nice smooth, sweeping bends. The '40 everywhere brigade' are more easily dispatched!


And that's exactly where I was yesterday morning. biggrin

John D.

21,002 posts

238 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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hornetrider said:
sam6sic6 said:
...and when the road did eventualy clear out I had no confidence to push on at all as I was concerned about cyclists being round every bend...
You overtake on bends?
Where did you get that from?

Tuvra

7,926 posts

254 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Your on the wrong Forum, here you go smile:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/

OwenK

3,472 posts

224 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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I agree for the most part. It's partly why I don't feel the need to spend money on upping the power or cornering behaviour of my car (beyond the set of springs I fitted a while back).

I'm already frustrated at speed limits, and drive as fast as possible around corners (only as far as you can see, etc). If I'm honest I couldn't go much faster with 500hp compared to the standard 170. I suppose the only thing that would be possible is passing 5-6 cars on a long straight rather than about 3 maximum!

Now, if you could have roads closed, it would be a different story - but driving on open public roads, even at 5am, I still can't stop myself thinking what if there's a stopped car just around the corner. (Or overturned tanker, or dead horse, etc)


However, I am deeply looking forward to a weekend's hooning in Wales with some similarly minded PHers at the end of this month!

dave_s13

14,028 posts

298 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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sam6sic6 said:
Motorbikes however seem to have no problem flying round blind bends far to fast on the wrong side of the road.....
Get a bike then!

To be fair on the bikers, you can see a lot further into/around bends perched on top your rocket of choice.

I had a mk2.5 MX5 a while back and, as has been said, they just don't have enough grunt to get past stuff without a run up.

They are pretty carp on fuel too tbh. Still great cars though.