Full Fat Rangey or Cayenne?
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As title really. Not very PHer motors but I'm in the market for a used SUV and have narrowed it down to these two.
Obviously both are very different within their segment, but both are roughly equal cost, age and mileage wise. Cayenne is quicker, more car like and "sporty", however the FFRR is bigger, more comfortable and "posher".
Which would be the best long term ownership prospect out of the two? Would I get fed up with the lack of pace and road manners of the rangey, would the Cayenne annoy with its reduced utility and chavvier image? Which is more likely to be a money pit, and which will hold its value best?
Anyone ever owned both? How did you get on with them?
Obviously both are very different within their segment, but both are roughly equal cost, age and mileage wise. Cayenne is quicker, more car like and "sporty", however the FFRR is bigger, more comfortable and "posher".
Which would be the best long term ownership prospect out of the two? Would I get fed up with the lack of pace and road manners of the rangey, would the Cayenne annoy with its reduced utility and chavvier image? Which is more likely to be a money pit, and which will hold its value best?
Anyone ever owned both? How did you get on with them?
dvs_dave said:
As title really. Not very PHer motors but I'm in the market for a used SUV and have narrowed it down to these two.
Obviously both are very different within their segment, but both are roughly equal cost, age and mileage wise. Cayenne is quicker, more car like and "sporty", however the FFRR is bigger, more comfortable and "posher".
Which would be the best long term ownership prospect out of the two? Would I get fed up with the lack of pace and road manners of the rangey, would the Cayenne annoy with its reduced utility and chavvier image? Which is more likely to be a money pit, and which will hold its value best?
Anyone ever owned both? How did you get on with them?
Budget?Obviously both are very different within their segment, but both are roughly equal cost, age and mileage wise. Cayenne is quicker, more car like and "sporty", however the FFRR is bigger, more comfortable and "posher".
Which would be the best long term ownership prospect out of the two? Would I get fed up with the lack of pace and road manners of the rangey, would the Cayenne annoy with its reduced utility and chavvier image? Which is more likely to be a money pit, and which will hold its value best?
Anyone ever owned both? How did you get on with them?
How long do you plan to keep?
What will it be used for?
Personally not a fan of the FFRR as I don't like the way they look, would rather a Disco or RRS.
Cayenne is pretty cool, but would want a turbo V8 in one.
For me a Cayenne, I like the looks and is a better 'drive' than the FFRR.
FFRR has a slightly better interior and probably would get further off-road but it is a bit boxy for my liking.
It depends on what you want really, If you go off-road then FFRR, if you keep to tarmac then Cayenne.
FFRR has a slightly better interior and probably would get further off-road but it is a bit boxy for my liking.
It depends on what you want really, If you go off-road then FFRR, if you keep to tarmac then Cayenne.
I currently have a FFRR and previously had a Cayenne GTS.
I hated the Cayenne, it was so uncomfortable I swear you could feel it driving over a match stick. I bought it new and sold it only 5 months later.
Get the FFRR. It does everything you would want a car to do with class and style.
I hated the Cayenne, it was so uncomfortable I swear you could feel it driving over a match stick. I bought it new and sold it only 5 months later.
Get the FFRR. It does everything you would want a car to do with class and style.
Looked at some home grown pig iron in the shape of the Jeep SRT8 which is fast but small and very "pimp", the Chevy Trailblazer SS, which is quick but simply horrible in all other respects, and it's sister car the Saab 9-7x Aero. Nicer inside and a nice corvette LS2 under the "hood" but ultimately crap.
The RR and Cayenne seem to be the only vehicles that work for me in terms of quality and function. BTW, I also checked out the X5, but that's built for midgets and the ML is a Merc for dunces.
The RR and Cayenne seem to be the only vehicles that work for me in terms of quality and function. BTW, I also checked out the X5, but that's built for midgets and the ML is a Merc for dunces.
mgroadster said:
I was quite disappointed when Porsche entered the truck building business with the Cayenne, sort of cheapens their classic sports image.
Yeah and how could any forgive them if they ever built tractors or took a small saloon car and tried to make it more fun... 
Edited by 300bhp/ton on Monday 27th June 21:57
The RR would have question marks about reliability and costs to keep it running IMO given a car out of warranty. The Cayenne is by no mean perfect but given the turbo is the best SUV in terms of driver enjoyment it would be an easy choice for me to make.
As for 'unPH' maybe for some muppets on here but anything with 8 cylinders that goes like stink should be PHenough for anyone.
As for 'unPH' maybe for some muppets on here but anything with 8 cylinders that goes like stink should be PHenough for anyone.
I suppose....V8 has always got to be a PH winner. 
I don't know how unreliable new shape RR's are or what expensive things go wrong on them, but the Porsche to my mind does seem the more complicated and overstressed of the two so is possibly more prone to horrendously expensive repairs?
True or am am I talking b
ks?
I don't know how unreliable new shape RR's are or what expensive things go wrong on them, but the Porsche to my mind does seem the more complicated and overstressed of the two so is possibly more prone to horrendously expensive repairs?
True or am am I talking b
ks? Edited by dvs_dave on Monday 27th June 22:15
2 completely different machines.
Cayennes = (actually >=) RRSports
RR's are comfier and wobble a bit more (but will go further into the muck) really.
If you were staying on the road and planning to drive 'enthusiatically' I'd say Cayenne everytime.
If you're planning to hit more than a muddy field and/or want to waft, RRFF.
Cayennes = (actually >=) RRSports
RR's are comfier and wobble a bit more (but will go further into the muck) really.
If you were staying on the road and planning to drive 'enthusiatically' I'd say Cayenne everytime.
If you're planning to hit more than a muddy field and/or want to waft, RRFF.
FFRR, but I'm biased! I would say if you appreciate quality and spacious interior it's a no brainer, if you want a dynamic drive then don't get an SUV. The Supercharged FFRR is a fantastic car, best of breed, with loads of toys, and nicer leather. That's what I'd recommend, though it could be considered a little thirsty!? 
dvs_dave said:
I suppose....V8 has always got to be a PH winner.
I don't know how unreliable new shape RR's are or what expensive things go wrong on them, but the Porsche to my mind does seem the more complicated and overstressed of the two so is possibly more prone to horrendously expensive repairs?
True or am am I talking bks?
There's an RR dealer at the end of my road who has a stack of RRs of the vintage you're talking about waiting for repair. As I've said on here before he drives a Jeep SRT-8 and tells me he 'absolutely loves' RRs because they keep him in work. He advised me to budget $5K a year for repairs citing the suspension, electronics and A/C as common failure points.I don't know how unreliable new shape RR's are or what expensive things go wrong on them, but the Porsche to my mind does seem the more complicated and overstressed of the two so is possibly more prone to horrendously expensive repairs?
True or am am I talking b
ks? Edited by dvs_dave on Monday 27th June 22:15
I don't think the Cayenne is overstressed at all and they seem to do better when it comes to JD power and all that sort of stuff, personally I much prefer the idea of a RR but couldn't face the potential for ruinous, wallet raping failures.
Motorrad said:
The RR would have question marks about reliability and costs to keep it running IMO given a car out of warranty. The Cayenne is by no mean perfect but given the turbo is the best SUV in terms of driver enjoyment it would be an easy choice for me to make.
As for 'unPH' maybe for some muppets on here but anything with 8 cylinders that goes like stink should be PHenough for anyone.
Don't think for one minute that the Porsche is the reliable choice. My neighbour has just got rid of his, absolute nightmare - spent nine weeks in the dealers during the 36 month lease. These weren't new car niggles - it spent a week at the dealer's in the last three months that he had it.As for 'unPH' maybe for some muppets on here but anything with 8 cylinders that goes like stink should be PHenough for anyone.
TDV8 is my daily driver - I love it. But niggles, and costly parts do detract from the experience (and that's from a supercar owner).
For example - front brake disks and pads needed replacing. A design flaw meant the threads pulled from the calipers - £2.5k later.... And if the turbos let go, it's an engine out, or body off bill.
For example - front brake disks and pads needed replacing. A design flaw meant the threads pulled from the calipers - £2.5k later.... And if the turbos let go, it's an engine out, or body off bill.
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