Why does Suzuki build stronger Bikes than Cars ?

[S3000]

Seriously Suzuki is building death machines like Hayabusa and GSXR.. while their cars are only good for city driving. This is ridiculous...

Can someone explain why they dont fit a Hayabusa engine to their cars ?

[tyranical]

S3000 said:

Seriously Suzuki is building death machines like Hayabusa and GSXR.. while their cars are only good for city driving. This is ridiculous...

Can someone explain why they dont fit a Hayabusa engine to their cars ?

Because where they sell their cars the money is in town cars, offroad vehicles etc.

I don't see the problem with a company specialising in specific areas, the majority of the market is flooded with options these days.

[MarJay]

Because it would not lug the weight of a modern car?

Their bikes are good, but not as well built as Hondas, and they don't have the same industrial resources to build a huge range of cars including performance models.

[redgriff500]

If you had driven a bike engined car - even a really light kitcar in daily traffic the answer would be blindingly obvious.

I'll give you a clue: Torque V Weight.

Also what are the service intervals and lifespan of a typical bike engine ?

[TRUENOSAM]

Not sure about bikes but my old Suzuki Ignis sport was driven like it was stolen since day 1 and it never missed a beat in the 40k miles I knew/owned it

[GroundEffect]

Honda also build better bikes than cars (in terms of going for the performance sector). I don't see how it's a valid concern - completely different industries.

[EDLT]

The Suzuki Swift is a nice little car, and their 4x4s aren't bad either. They do a slightly larger saloon which is supposed to be good to drive but its not really aimed at the UK market (it doesn't have a diesel option).

Trying to extend into more competitive sectors is stupid (See MG SV).

My old Swift was abused for years without dying, only the rear dampers + wheel bearings gave up because my dad rammed an entire flat-pack kitchen in the boot.

[YoungOne]

Have you tried the engine in the swift sport? Its cracking and easily on a par with the lump in the renaultsport twingo.

[Sonofabeesting]

S3000 said:

Seriously Suzuki is building death machines like Hayabusa and GSXR.. while their cars are only good for city driving. This is ridiculous...

Can someone explain why they dont fit a Hayabusa engine to their cars ?

Death machines…..really?? Also a car and a bike are VERY different

[trickywoo]

redgriff500 said:

Also what are the service intervals and lifespan of a typical bike engine ?

About 6,000 miles and 200,000 miles respectively.

[Nath88n]

They did, they just never put it on sale.

[rhinochopig]

trickywoo said:

redgriff500 said:

Also what are the service intervals and lifespan of a typical bike engine ?

About 6,000 miles and 200,000 miles respectively.

Not in a bec - the box tends to die first. Mine went at 7k, but i was unlucky. I doubt you'd get more than 30k out ofone though.

Rg500, you're wrong about the torque. Busas and blackbirds have more than some cars. The problem with them is the low mass flywheel, clutch designed for hand operation,and clunky seq box. They're very easy to stall with the clutch flywheecombo.

[anonymous-user]

A quick review of Busa powered Caterhams will reveal just how fragile they can be. Bike boxes and cranks are not man enough to lug a bodyshell around for any great length of time.

[Risotto]

It's like asking why Yamaha don't fit engines to their pianos - they're completely separate divisions of their parent company.

[rhinochopig]

yonex said:

A quick review of Busa powered Caterhams will reveal just how fragile they can be. Bike boxes and cranks are not man enough to lug a bodyshell around for any great length of time.

Another fallacy really, the biggest stressor on the drivetrain is the mechanical grip two 8 inch 48r tyres offer. The back torque through the gear box when changing down is much higher than than the donor bike was designed for. They also enable full throttle in every gear.

As i said above the box is the weakspot, the cranks are generally strong enough. Most engine failures tend to come from oil starvation. Dry sumps are a must imo.

[Mars]

They did:



From here:

http://motoristpassion.blogspot.com/2011/03/suzuki...

[obscene]

550KG

[vdubbin]

TRUENOSAM said:

Not sure about bikes but my old Suzuki Ignis sport was driven like it was stolen since day 1 and it never missed a beat in the 40k miles I knew/owned it

This. I couldn't believe how well built it was, simple, well engineered stuff. Those Hungarians sure do know how to bolt a car together!