Anyone know this car?
Anyone know this car?
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ecain63

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10,653 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Seen this in 2 adverts and im curious as to why its had a new engine. Looks like a mint car, but looks can be deceptive. Worth a punt?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2973119.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2658920.htm

Eddie

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

234 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Sounds like a car that been hammered. Its got all the hallmarks of a bellend owner - wrap, schnitzer reps, inflated bhp figure from a remap! etc etc

Avoid in my opinion

ecain63

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10,653 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Cool. Thanks for the advice. Im in talks with the current seller to get some more info but i do agree with the 'ragges' theory.

Eddie

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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There are a few Z4M S54s that have been replaced under warranty, due to various issues, but this is the first one I've seen that has simply been rebuilt.

If it had been a manufacturing quality issue then you'd think it would have been replaced under warranty.

ecain63

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10,653 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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mmm-five said:
There are a few Z4M S54s that have been replaced under warranty, due to various issues, but this is the first one I've seen that has simply been rebuilt.

If it had been a manufacturing quality issue then you'd think it would have been replaced under warranty.
Yeah, that was my thought. What are the main killers of the S54's then?

DeanR32

1,840 posts

214 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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You looking for one of these? Selling the 61 or fancy another toy?

Zeonalarm

185 posts

240 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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No doubt it got the new engine when it crashed through Halfords at 100mph.

retreat

326 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Getting rid of the of the Touring?

Jim

ecain63

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10,653 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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No, not getting rid of the Tourer at the moment, best car ive had thus far. The wife is selling her Brera SV6 Prodrive and im searching for replacment ideas.

Eddie

Jazzer

1,758 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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NO NO NO NO.....NO!

KENZ

1,229 posts

224 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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That car's worth zip.. If you ever come to trade it, no stealer/trader would touch it with a barge pole. Unless heavily discounted.

TBH doesn't do anything for me.. Apart from the CSL alloy upgrade and maybe the sills. Car must be kept std.



Edited by KENZ on Thursday 30th June 09:20

ga41

148 posts

228 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I dont agree with the people who say this will be worth nothing come resale time, if the looks work for you then get it.

As for the car itself, personally i dont particularly care for its "enhancements", visually or mechanically. 50hp from an exhaust, intake and remap? rolleyes

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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ecain63 said:
Yeah, that was my thought. What are the main killers of the S54's then?
The S54 is probably the most reliable of the S50/S52/S54 era, but you'll still get a couple that don't quite meet the spec.

I've heard of them going due to VANOS failure (still), oil starvation due to faulty oil pump, bent valves, and lean fuelling due to faulty & undiagnosed MAFs.

However, there's probably a good few thousand s54b32 engines around the UK in both Z3M, M3 & Z4M guise, but I've only heard of maybe 20 failures that were warranty jobs and thus probably not 'abuse'.

If it's a warranty job, then I see it as no different that having replacement springs, oxygen sensors, or roof motors (for the roadster), but I know some people seem to immediately assume an engine replacement means it's had a hard life.

ecain63

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10,653 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Spoke to the dealer this morning to see what the score was.

BMW rebuilt the engine under good will at a cost of £8k. The engine had a knocking noise and as BMW knew of an issue they sorted it. Dealer seems to think the car is worth good money. ??

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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mmm-five said:
The S54 is probably the most reliable of the S50/S52/S54 era, but you'll still get a couple that don't quite meet the spec.

I've heard of them going due to VANOS failure (still), oil starvation due to faulty oil pump, bent valves, and lean fuelling due to faulty & undiagnosed MAFs.

However, there's probably a good few thousand s54b32 engines around the UK in both Z3M, M3 & Z4M guise, but I've only heard of maybe 20 failures that were warranty jobs and thus probably not 'abuse'.

If it's a warranty job, then I see it as no different that having replacement springs, oxygen sensors, or roof motors (for the roadster), but I know some people seem to immediately assume an engine replacement means it's had a hard life.
I made that assumption from the advert, but more to do with awful bling adhered to its svelte slipper like carcass. Those wheels; oh my words they are very upsetting to behold. Off with his head!

mmm-five

12,396 posts

315 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Pig Skill said:
I made that assumption from the advert, but more to do with awful bling adhered to its svelte slipper like carcass. Those wheels; oh my words they are very upsetting to behold. Off with his head!
I wasn't referring to this car, or your post, but to some of the responses on the Z4-Forum.

But my immediate assumption was the same about this car when it said 'engine rebuild' as it's probably cheaper (due to labour costs) to replace the engine than to rebuild it, and a rebuild might only address the failed part and not anything that's weakened due to the failed part.

Raify

6,556 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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It's not worth "zip".

Take off the rear wing, wheels and questionable chrome and you have a standard car (apart from the roof which I think suits it) in a very rare colour for the Z4mc.

Just buy on condition and research the history plenty.

skeeterm5

4,600 posts

219 months

Sunday 3rd July 2011
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I think it looks great, like a mini DTM/Ring car.

S

falkster

4,258 posts

234 months

Sunday 3rd July 2011
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Schnitser? Classic advert!

ecain63

Original Poster:

10,653 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd July 2011
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Ive decided to can the idea now. Looks too ropey.