RE: Driven: Gordini Renaults
RE: Driven: Gordini Renaults
Thursday 30th June 2011

Driven: Gordini Renaults

Why is there much ado about white and blue? We see if a paint job makes a pair of fast Renaults any better



Quite often with a review, it is the custom of the relevant scribbler to hold back the verdict, the idea of course being to grip the reader. Today, however, I am going to throw away the Road Tester's Car Review Rulebook (and only partly because the title is far too alliterative for its own good). Because I am going to deliver the verdict (all right, opinion - because this is going to be pretty subjective) that I really don't see the point of Gordini Renaults.

Until recently we had rather avoided dropping our collective office backside into any Gordini products, largely on the basis that we knew that they were dynamically identical to existing Renaultsport products, and so we didn't really see the point.


But we do love a Renault hot hatch on PH (Renaultsport really do know how to make a fine chassis) and, well, we hadn't driven one for a while, so we thought we'd bite the bullet and try out a couple of Gordinis - the Clio and the Twingo models.

Let's be clear, my beef with a Gordini Renault is nothing to do with the way the cars drive - the Clio is as much of a giant-slaying cross-country terrier as ever, while the Twingo could put a smile on the face of Jack Dee.

No, the problem is that, should you choose a Twingo or Clio Gordini, you are merely paying extra money, as far as I can work out, to make yourself look like you drive a cross-between a training shoe and a bottle of WKD Blue.


In the case of both the Clio and the Twingo, you are paying a sizeable chunk extra for little more than a few gew-gaws and glitzy bits - smatterings of pseudo-luxury on cars that are at their utterly brilliant best when pared to the bone, with perhaps a decent set of seats thrown in and nothing more.

In the case of the Clio you get some blue 'n' white trim on the steering wheel, a sparkly Gordini gearknob and some leather chairs, with accompanying metallic blue paint and white stripes on the outside. Considering that you can pay less than £17k for a base Renaultsport Clio, the fact that Renault charges £19,870 for its Gordini bits does seem rather cheeky. But then they have made just 500 of them.


It's a similar story with the Gordini Twingo, to be honest. This time there are only 200 of them, but they get the same Paint-and-wheels-and-interior-trimmings treatment. Specify the more hardcore cup chassis (which is pretty much essential as it transforms the Twingo from nippy warm hatch to genuine hoot courtesy of a lower ride height and 30 per cent stiffer springs and dampers) and you'll pay £15k for the privilege. Given the fact that the standard Renaultsport Twingo can be had for £12k new, this again is not good news.

The problem for Renault is perhaps that Renaulsport has already co-opted the rally car skunk works glamour of which the original Gordini Renaults were the epitome, leaving a resurrected Gordini badge with little to offer other than offset white stripes on a blue paint job.

Call us harsh, but perhaps Renault should leave the marketing nonsense alone and stick to what it does best - making damn fine hot hatches. Because I'd have the Twingo or the Clio in a heartbeat if I were in the market for either. But not in blue with white stripes...




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Insight

Original Poster:

608 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Beautifully written but I think you miss the point of marketing. The Gordini is worth the extra £2k because it makes you feel like you are part of the Gordini heritage... which dates itself back to 1950's Formula 1. So for some people, being reminded everyday that they are connected to something greater than themselves is worth the £2k. For many many others of course, it won't be worth the money because they haven't the vision to see beyond themselves.

LuS1fer

43,508 posts

274 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Gordini Bennett, more "fashion" crap. To be fair, many people are so shallow, Gucci and Moschino that any fashion item with a very high tag will simply be seen as a bonus. If they can find 200 buyers then good for them, chances are they won't be interested in the ability but it may be a conquest sale from a MINI where a stock car wouldn't cut the catwalk.

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Insight said:
Beautifully written but I think you miss the point of marketing. The Gordini is worth the extra £2k because it makes you feel like you are part of the Gordini heritage... which dates itself back to 1950's Formula 1. So for some people, being reminded everyday that they are connected to something greater than themselves is worth the £2k. For many many others of course, it won't be worth the money because they haven't the vision to see beyond themselves.
It's quite possible to honor heritage in a tasteful fashion.

jason s4

16,810 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Well said Insight....

I was there right back at the beginning of the Renault 8 G and on.

In fact, my brother had one, gutted it and strapped a Renault 30 V6 engine and gearbox in the backthumbup

Now that was proper scary!!!

However, its been a while since the Gordini brand and so, i for one think that these MAY slot alongside the oldies in the future, providing they stay original.



jaik

2,002 posts

242 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I test drove a Twingo RS last year. Their demonstrator was a Gordini model and the interior "styling" really is ghastly, looks like a proper Ripspeed job. The outside's not much better IMO.

SarGara

413 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Its a shame the Gordini heritage has been reduced to colour coding in my opinion.

7 Sevens

658 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I almost purchased an ex demo Twingo Sport Gordini over the standard version. Providing you liked the blue the interior spec was much better on the Gordini than the standard car and on the used market I would go Gordini everytime.

In the end I went for an Abarth 500 over the Twingo due to a much better sense of torque.

Gandi69

85 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Those new gordini coloured wheels really are horrendous. Should have left it the gordini stuff with the 172 cup (or Gordini in overseas markets)

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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doogz said:
Sorry.

Start of the 8th paragraph, i think you meant "Twingo" not "Clio"
Indeed.

Thanks for showing them for what they are PH

Threeh

10 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I guess they are trying to keep up with rise of the more fashion conscious market, namely Mini and Abarth. It's just simple marketing, producing them in limited number probably doesn't cost them too much money and gets the RenaultSport badge out there. The more people who are made aware of these fantastic little cars (Clio and Twingo) the better!

Personally I'm kind of glad they didn't produce a more mad version of the Clio, it would have added confusion to the main RS range.

That said an RS Twingo Turbo would be nice. smile

Threeh

10 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Oh and it's probably not as pointless as this: http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/rolls-royce-mini-...

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Threeh said:
It's just simple marketing,
Yep, agree 100%. And shows Renaults total lack of respect for Gordini's history and owners are just as bad.

vixen1700

29,018 posts

299 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Saw the thread title and hoped it would be something along these lines.

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teeCup

215 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Gandi69 said:
Those new gordini coloured wheels really are horrendous. Should have left it the gordini stuff with the 172 cup (or Gordini in overseas markets)
I agree the wheels look aweful! But the European "172 cup" was named after Jean Ragnotti and called the "Clio Ragnotti" nerd

3doorPete

9,991 posts

263 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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teeCup said:
Gandi69 said:
Those new gordini coloured wheels really are horrendous. Should have left it the gordini stuff with the 172 cup (or Gordini in overseas markets)
I agree the wheels look aweful! But the European "172 cup" was named after Jean Ragnotti and called the "Clio Ragnotti" nerd
I think Gandi69 means the 182 Cup with the optional stripes in Gordini blue.

Shame it is just badge engineering - the 172 Cup was a proper tool, much lightened, loads of individual parts, no ABS etc - a modern equivalent (even if now ABS is needed for nanny state) would be far more befitting of the Gordini badge.

PlugUgly

62 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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A friend of mine is 'lucky' enough to own one of these, bought it pre-registered for £18,600 when there was a BRAND NEW Clio 200 with all of the toys for £17,000 right next to it. Madness.

To me all of the Gordini accessories make it look like someone's crashed it into a particularly horrible branch of Halfords...


nick-elise

114 posts

241 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I agree completely, when using the Gordini name Renaultsport should be offering some kind of performance benefit, whether it be handling or power it would be nice to see the brand meaning something. Still love Renaultsport's products though!

alexmckie

118 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I think I'm going to puke now.....

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Chairs you put under your dining table. SEATS are the things you sit on in cars.

Wah

47 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Paying more cash for a RS Clio/Twingo with some poorly selected tart-up parts fitted doesn't do it for me.
'Gordini' implies improved performance in my view.
These fail to provide that.