Toyota/Scion FR-S
Discussion
Well it looks like the FR-S will indeed come to fruition and while not stunningly fast it looks like it will be very competitive indeed. They are say 3000lbs, 200-250 HP non-turbo version w a 0-60 time of 7.5 sec RWD but they are also offering a turbo kit for it and stated that they anticipate tuner adding much more horsepower so they have overbuilt the car to handle significantly more HP. The emphasis is on handling. It sounds like they are building a car made for drifting and spec races. Subaru is heavily contributing to the engineering. It also looks good!
To be honest these types of cars (the new V-6 Mustang) are far more exciting to me than expensive masterpieces like the 458 because anyone can afford them if you can't new simply wait a little bit and you can used. They are easy to modify piece by piece as budget, time and personal taste allows. I think it will be a hit. Any feedback?
The heart of the FR-S will be Toyota’s version of Subaru’s FB20, a water-cooled flat-4. Although Toyota hasn’t released technical specifications on the FR-S yet, we were able to dig up quite a bit of information about the car. Displacement will be 1995 cc, and it will feature Toyota’s D4-S direct- and port-injection technology. The 16-valve powerplant will produce about 200 bhp at 7200 rpm and 150 lb.-ft. of torque at 4600. It will come mated to a 6-speed manual or a conventional torque-converter 6-speed automatic. The obvious choice for enthusiasts will be the manual gearbox. According to Toyota, it will feature short throws, which will help the car hit 60 mph in roughly 7.5 seconds, making it as quick as the Hyundai Genesis Coupe; however, go the automatic-transmission route, and it’ll take you nearly 9 sec. to get to 60 mph. We expect the car to tip the scales around the 3000-lb. mark.
The future Toyota sports car promises first-rate handling. With the anticipation that many FR-S owners will increase engine performance, the car’s suspension and body structure are being over-engineered to handle the possibility of added power. We predict that the suspension will be similar to that of the Subaru Impreza, consisting of MacPherson struts up front and upper and lower A-arms at rear. Spy videos of testing show the production FR-S to look sport-tuned, but not overly stiff. Based on what we saw on the skeleton model Subaru showed at the Geneva show in March, the FR-S will have a limited-slip differential, the same one found on the Impreza.
To be honest these types of cars (the new V-6 Mustang) are far more exciting to me than expensive masterpieces like the 458 because anyone can afford them if you can't new simply wait a little bit and you can used. They are easy to modify piece by piece as budget, time and personal taste allows. I think it will be a hit. Any feedback?
The heart of the FR-S will be Toyota’s version of Subaru’s FB20, a water-cooled flat-4. Although Toyota hasn’t released technical specifications on the FR-S yet, we were able to dig up quite a bit of information about the car. Displacement will be 1995 cc, and it will feature Toyota’s D4-S direct- and port-injection technology. The 16-valve powerplant will produce about 200 bhp at 7200 rpm and 150 lb.-ft. of torque at 4600. It will come mated to a 6-speed manual or a conventional torque-converter 6-speed automatic. The obvious choice for enthusiasts will be the manual gearbox. According to Toyota, it will feature short throws, which will help the car hit 60 mph in roughly 7.5 seconds, making it as quick as the Hyundai Genesis Coupe; however, go the automatic-transmission route, and it’ll take you nearly 9 sec. to get to 60 mph. We expect the car to tip the scales around the 3000-lb. mark.
The future Toyota sports car promises first-rate handling. With the anticipation that many FR-S owners will increase engine performance, the car’s suspension and body structure are being over-engineered to handle the possibility of added power. We predict that the suspension will be similar to that of the Subaru Impreza, consisting of MacPherson struts up front and upper and lower A-arms at rear. Spy videos of testing show the production FR-S to look sport-tuned, but not overly stiff. Based on what we saw on the skeleton model Subaru showed at the Geneva show in March, the FR-S will have a limited-slip differential, the same one found on the Impreza.
Edited by PaulFontaine on Thursday 7th July 17:51
Edited by PaulFontaine on Thursday 7th July 17:54
Oh yes I forgot price which will be 20-25K USD the article is taken from road and track. 2200 would be amazing but probably cost prohibitive. They state 3000 which all things considered with US crash requirements and beefy components is very, very good considering it looks like a daily driver friendly 2+2 with usable trunk consider the current gen MX-5 comes in at 2400lbs. I think it's primary US competitors will be the Mustang and Hyundai Genesis coupe v-6's. Toyota's reputation for durability and reliability I think will make this the same niche type car as the old 80's RWD corolla's which in the US despite only having something like 80 or 100 hp are highly sought after by tuners as drift vehicles.
Any affordable, vaguely practical, insurable RWD coupe sounds good. As someone said above, far more relevant to most petrolheads than a new supercar.
ETA: Just done my sums and 3000lbs isn't that bad. It's 1,360kg. Okay it's hardly Elise-like, but it's still pretty reasonable for a mainstream production car these days. The 370Z is near as damn it 1500.
ETA: Just done my sums and 3000lbs isn't that bad. It's 1,360kg. Okay it's hardly Elise-like, but it's still pretty reasonable for a mainstream production car these days. The 370Z is near as damn it 1500.
Edited by Chris71 on Thursday 7th July 16:02
Matt Harper said:
Yup good link I wonder what their dynamic targets were and if the scoobie will be an AWD versionChris71 said:
Any affordable, vaguely practical, insurable RWD coupe sounds good. As someone said above, far more relevant to most petrolheads than a new supercar.
ETA: Just done my sums and 3000lbs isn't that bad. It's 1,360kg. Okay it's hardly Elise-like, but it's still pretty reasonable for a mainstream production car these days. The 370Z is near as damn it 1500.
1360kg is about the weight of an E46 CSL - not bad if it's got some kit inside as well. Be interested to see what emergesETA: Just done my sums and 3000lbs isn't that bad. It's 1,360kg. Okay it's hardly Elise-like, but it's still pretty reasonable for a mainstream production car these days. The 370Z is near as damn it 1500.
Edited by Chris71 on Thursday 7th July 16:02
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