Who would want to buy a sagaris in kit form?
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would be seriously interested in building my own sagaris from scatch,
If the rumours are correct about the sagaris being made under liecence,
Would it not be a viable Idea to sell the car in kit form too?
I would buy one,
Chasis, running gear, difs, gearboxes can all be speced by yourself same with the engine.
I believe this would open a new market & increase sales of the Sagaris or other models ?
Just a idea i had while washing the car.
If the rumours are correct about the sagaris being made under liecence,
Would it not be a viable Idea to sell the car in kit form too?
I would buy one,
Chasis, running gear, difs, gearboxes can all be speced by yourself same with the engine.
I believe this would open a new market & increase sales of the Sagaris or other models ?
Just a idea i had while washing the car.
No a standard sag chasis, some people may want different ratios in the diff & gear box it will still be a sagaris
the point I am trying to make is buy the sag in bits & put it together by yourself, for less than a factory one say for £30k
I cant see it being that difficult to do , Buy the chasis & body or buy as a rolling chasis the possibilitys are endless for some one with the jigs,
just my mind working overtime with a idea I belive could work
the point I am trying to make is buy the sag in bits & put it together by yourself, for less than a factory one say for £30k
I cant see it being that difficult to do , Buy the chasis & body or buy as a rolling chasis the possibilitys are endless for some one with the jigs,
just my mind working overtime with a idea I belive could work
samantha said:
No a standard sag chasis, some people may want different ratios in the diff & gear box it will still be a sagaris
the point I am trying to make is buy the sag in bits & put it together by yourself, for less than a factory one say for £30k
I cant see it being that difficult to do , Buy the chasis & body or buy as a rolling chasis the possibilitys are endless for some one with the jigs,
just my mind working overtime with a idea I belive could work
Chassis 3K coated.the point I am trying to make is buy the sag in bits & put it together by yourself, for less than a factory one say for £30k
I cant see it being that difficult to do , Buy the chasis & body or buy as a rolling chasis the possibilitys are endless for some one with the jigs,
just my mind working overtime with a idea I belive could work
Corners (supension, uprights, brakes, wheels/tyres and wishbones)assuming decent but not expensive kit IRO 5K.
Engine 12K?
Gearbox 3K with bell housing and clutch.
Diff and driveshafts 2K
Body unpainted 5K
Glass 1K
Trim and seats 4K
Electrical kit to include instruments and ECU 3K
Radiators and aircon Kit 2K
F and R ARBs with all mountings 1K
Exhaust system 2K
Unpainted, no VAT paid, no labour considered about 40 - 45K.
Dont think I've been high on the prices and there are all the little things I've missed out.
30K is a nice idea, but a nice one to build yourself painted, 50K?
DonkeyApple said:
You'd want to base it on an old Sierra though, to keep costs down.
Me personally, no. If I wanted to build something I would want to use quality parts, all new unless no choice and to have custom made was a fortune.
Realistic budget to start with or like all badly planned things, it will end in tears or "unfinished project for sale"
DonkeyApple said:
You'd want to base it on an old Sierra though, to keep costs down.
not sure I'd want a Sierra under my sportscar (I know you're joking), but I do see why small volume manufacturers use engines such as the Ford V6 and uprate them. Probably cheap as chips. I think I'd choose some sensibly priced LS engine to keep costs sensible yet retain some character.Targarama said:
not sure I'd want a Sierra under my sportscar (I know you're joking), but I do see why small volume manufacturers use engines such as the Ford V6 and uprate them. Probably cheap as chips. I think I'd choose some sensibly priced LS engine to keep costs sensible yet retain some character.
Glad someone's facetious wit monitor is switched on 
A kit wouldn't be that hard but it'll end up costing more than an original can be bought for.
I think if there is going to be a race series then if that series wants to use a TVR shape to sell tickets then it needs to be TVR underneath otherwise the series is just ripping people off and defrauding the brand.
As Clive mentioned as a side issue, basic costings of a scratch build show you how trapped TVR were between needing to sell for much higher prices but at the same time junking their traditional clients and product ethos. Screwed.
The engine costs could be tweeked down by half for a recon speed six, or the LS route for similar money,
Still would be a saving on a new sagaris which with profit will be listed at £60k to 70k given the realistic costs above ? or manufactured in china?
Unless the home build used used bits from a donar car as you say from a ford?
Then the car could come in at £30k easily,
Best way would be to buy new chasis, & new body, & glass, & take all the bits from a salvaged tuscan, I see on ebay there are a few from £4995 to 12k
and you will get the Sagaris well within £30k,
But then you have the resale problems if you want to sell on.
So I guess it wont work, stick with a second hand sagaris .
Still would be a saving on a new sagaris which with profit will be listed at £60k to 70k given the realistic costs above ? or manufactured in china?
Unless the home build used used bits from a donar car as you say from a ford?
Then the car could come in at £30k easily,
Best way would be to buy new chasis, & new body, & glass, & take all the bits from a salvaged tuscan, I see on ebay there are a few from £4995 to 12k
and you will get the Sagaris well within £30k,
But then you have the resale problems if you want to sell on.
So I guess it wont work, stick with a second hand sagaris .
A nice idea . Maybe a donor car such as written off T350 would provide all the circuit boards and bits of trim that are no longer available.
Obviously depends on your budget.
Or would you be better spending your money on say an Ultima or Ginetta G40
Obviously depends on your budget.
Or would you be better spending your money on say an Ultima or Ginetta G40
Edited by ukwheelsevents on Tuesday 12th July 17:12
samantha said:
Then the car could come in at £30k easily,
I'd suggest the kit alone would cost £20-30K, low volume expensive bits like glass, loom, instruments, trim etc all add very quickly. Especially if it was insisted that all parts were new (Would be if I was selling the kit). No opportunity for Q plates as they'd ruin the image of the marque (sic) and then justify the snide 'kitcar' comments.
Just look at the price list of parts on the Ultima site here
Yes its a no brainer, I guess, & having had a high spec GDT70 I know how much the cost goes up,
Had a chat with TVR power re Sagaris regeneration, It wont happen untill the demand is there if at all, So I guess thats that, Stick to whats on the market & look after your own car.
Kit car TVRs wont happen yet anyway.
Had a chat with TVR power re Sagaris regeneration, It wont happen untill the demand is there if at all, So I guess thats that, Stick to whats on the market & look after your own car.
Kit car TVRs wont happen yet anyway.
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