MP4-12C on Top Gear

[DayTrader]

Turns out it is quicker than a 458!

Awesome.

[VML]

Amazing, the feature was re-filmed on Wednesday and suddenly came second on the board...

McLaren clearly know how to cheat

[JFReturns]

Maybe it suited the track.

Source/evidence of cheating?

[OilyRagMan]

VML said:

Amazing, the feature was re-filmed on Wednesday and suddenly came second on the board...

McLaren clearly know how to cheat

the power laps are always filmed on the wednesdays!

[Try5t]

Does anyone know if this is this the tweaked car they were using that appeared the other week following the various journo's comparison to the 458..?

[Shmee]

I certainly wasn't expecting it to do it in 1.16, 3 seconds quicker than the 458.

[OilyRagMan]

it was always going to be quick as alot of the development work was done on the TG track

[VML]

OilyRagMan said:

the power laps are always filmed on the wednesdays!

Yes but it had already been filmed 3 weeks ago, the power lap that is, so why the need to go again?

[OilyRagMan]

VML said:

OilyRagMan said:

the power laps are always filmed on the wednesdays!

Yes but it had already been filmed 3 weeks ago, the power lap that is, so why the need to go again?

im guessing because this week they had the new 'tweaked' car with the sharper throttle like all the prduction cars are now going to have!

[VML]

OilyRagMan said:

it was always going to be quick as alot of the development work was done on the TG track

Not actually accurate, the majority of the testing (well over 95%) was done at Idiada, only local 'shakedown' testing was done at Dunsfold.

[andrew]

wasn't this episode "delayed" from last sunday ???

[VML]

OilyRagMan said:

im guessing because this week they had the new 'tweaked' car with the sharper throttle like all the prduction cars are now going to have!

A man with Papaya Orange tinted glasses, clearly.

[MoBeanz]

So the 12C spanks the 458 gen 1 press car... so just how quick are those newer 458 press cars?!?

It takes a whole load of 'passion' to make a car that much quicker without some serious mods.

[OilyRagMan]

VML said:

OilyRagMan said:

im guessing because this week they had the new 'tweaked' car with the sharper throttle like all the prduction cars are now going to have!

A man with Papaya Orange tinted glasses, clearly.

No not really i would be perfectally happy with either! just dont see why your accusing them of cheating when you have no solid evidence to back it up other that they re filmed the power lap with a tweaked car that will be closer to the customer car!

[yellowtr]

Was filmed well over 4 weeks ago.

[chr15b]

30mpg!! My golf struggles to do that

[70proof]

forget the times, i thought the most interesting thing was clarkson keeping up with the 458 which was clearly being driven flat out.....wasn;t breaking a sweat, and looked totally composed...

maybe this is a 200mph supercar for the less talented, and not a 200mph supercar for those that can drive (ala tiff/plato!).... marketing genius....

[StuartMcKay]

70proof said:

with the 458 which was clearly being driven flat out......

It was being driven sideways which doesn't mean that it was being driven flat out! Just driven for show and certainly not for speed!

No matter if the car was 5,10,20,50 or 100% developed at the Top Gear test track it was still developed there more than the 458 was so therefore I would expect it to be quicker around that track just as I would expect the 458 to be quicker around Fiorano or Maranello.

The fact still remains that every review say's that it is clinically brilliant yet a soul-less and less involving drive than the 458. That won't have any effect on the Mac's sales initially but I can see quite a few hitting the secondhand market sooner than 458's have in mass numbers which will in turn have a knock on effect.

As I have said before on here, a cracking start but hopefully they can learn from their initial 'mistakes' and be less clinical with any future cars.

[ufoufo]

Best review of the mclaren so far - actually what i was expecting, before that tweeked 458 was given to all the magazines! Which ever way you look at it, 1.162 is an astonishing lap time, only beaten by a 500bhp Atom! And not just praise for the speed, but also for the ride, handling, and build quality. Well done Mclaren!

[stephen300o]

It could do light speed, and I'd still take the Ferrari.