What car is this?
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giw12

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Monday 11th July 2011
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SV8Predator

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188 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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I'm sure someone in the Kit Car section will know.

mgroadster

257 posts

182 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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SV8Predator said:
I'm sure someone in the Kit Car section will know.
I wanted to say that along similar lines but then thought that I would be shouted down by someone more knowledgeable who would tell me it's a rare Italian "la suza de miuto" worth 19 million quid.

HovisT2

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176 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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It looks like a kit due to the proportions of the body. The front looks similar to a 'blower' Bentley of the 1930's, the rear body's height is too low and a 'bit' Morgan.
It has Mk1 Mini rear lights fitted.
Possibly a Lomax, built using Citroen 2cv chassis and running gear. I may well be wrong though.

Nice looking car for the summer!

Roy C

4,209 posts

307 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Same car spotted on another forum.


"Alvis TA 14 Sport Special"

A TA14 (1946-1950) should look something like this:


All coach-built cars, so I assume someone has made a "faux" 20's/30's roadster body to replace a rotten original 40's saloon/tourer body.


Edited by Roy C on Tuesday 12th July 09:33

slomax

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215 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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HovisT2 said:
Possibly a Lomax, built using Citroen 2cv chassis and running gear. I may well be wrong though.
teacher
It is definitely not a Lomax, or in fact anything 2cv based. The 2cv is front engined and front wheel drive and it has a longitudinal engine. For this reason the engine is well forward of the front wheels. It is also exceedingly difficult to get and locate none standard 2cv wheels to fit, and there are none on the market currently that i am aware of that look like that. This car is definitely front engined, and definitely longitudinal, so is rear wheel drive.

tongue out
Slomax

Edited by slomax on Tuesday 12th July 09:40

V10Mike

608 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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HovisT2 said:
It looks like a kit due to the proportions of the body. The front looks similar to a 'blower' Bentley of the 1930's, the rear body's height is too low and a 'bit' Morgan.
It has Mk1 Mini rear lights fitted.
Possibly a Lomax, built using Citroen 2cv chassis and running gear. I may well be wrong though.

Nice looking car for the summer!
The big giveaway for me is the radiator mounted well forward of the front axle -it just looks wrong! On an original prewar Alvis the radiator is approximately level with the front axle.


You can make a good looking special out of a TA14, but you have to move the engine back at least a foot!

52classic

2,634 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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The car is too big to be a CV based creation and noted what others have said about the Rad shell position. Could be built on a Sherpa chassis.

na

7,898 posts

257 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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the winged rad emblem should give it away to someone, not me tho', I've seen that emblem before but can't remember on what

Roy C

4,209 posts

307 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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rolleyes IT'S AN ALVIS TA14 rolleyes

52classic

2,634 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Sorry if I've missed something Roy, I was thinking about the Black one and I can't understand why someone would want to make their Alvis look like a Kit Car!

Scuttle, rad and axle lines look so different. What is claimed to be the origin of the body?

Don't get me wrong, I would be proud to own it but it still doesn't look like an Alvis to me.

Riley Blue

22,941 posts

249 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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'Specials' often don't look like the model on which they're based but that doesn't make them 'kit cars'.

Roy C

4,209 posts

307 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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It is described as an "Alvis TA 14 Sport Special", so I assume it is a TA14 chassis with a dodgy-looking (German?) two-seater body. AFAIK all the TA14's had bodies fitted by coachbuilders (Carbodies, Tickford, Mulliner, etc). It doesn't look right because IMHO the proportions of that post-war saloon car don't suit a sports body style.

There's a mixture of nice original-looking cars and some really awful looking specials on his website.

Hupo

3 posts

176 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Roy C said:
It is described as an "Alvis TA 14 Sport Special", so I assume it is a TA14 chassis with a dodgy-looking (German?) two-seater body. AFAIK all the TA14's had bodies fitted by coachbuilders (Carbodies, Tickford, Mulliner, etc). It doesn't look right because IMHO the proportions of that post-war saloon car don't suit a sports body style.

There's a mixture of nice original-looking cars and some really awful looking specials on his website.
Yes, that is a Alvis TA 14 from 1948. More than 30 years ago converted in England.
1948 Alvis 14 roadster Special – Chassis/Frame no 22680 – Reg.no. FVJ 694. This is a project started in the 1960s by the late Laurie Halliwell in Hereford – based on a TA 14 with the radiator lowered and engine mods carried out by Norman Routledge in Leeds. Purchased incomplete around 969 by Peter Thompson who sold it two years later to Peter Harrison, then Southern Secretary. Peter built a totally new body, rewired from scratch, making a very attractive 2+2 roadster. This took 4 years and is fully documented, together with the original registration book, original handbook plus receipts and photographs of conversion. The car was then sold to Bill Cooper, an avid enthusiast and Register member. Bill Cooper kept the car until his demise in 1985, having fitted new hood, horns and other oodies! Peter Thompson repurchased the car from Bill’s widow to use in Club events. This he never did but passed it to son Nicholas who did! He fitted a new set of tyres, battery and had the engine professionally rebuilt. Repainted black with red wheels, new ignition, seats and radiator. Keith Brooham then purchased the car in 1987. He added new chrome headlights, tyres, brake pads and tonneau and kept it regularly serviced. He used it regularly
to Alvis meetings until he became ill in 1994, since which time it has only been brought out from the garage on “high days and holidays”. It has been a fun car to own and run but due
to ill health he now feels it should be used and enjoyed more by someone who wants a club fun car with a unique history. For further interest, an oil painting of this car dated around
1978 was discovered and is now owned by an Alvis member. The car is still in running order and has a full MOT.
Now for sale in Germany. In my garage. Thanks Hupo http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/4.gif

Hupo

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176 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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giw12 said:
Many thanks for the info Hupo...fascinating stuff!

Does the other one have such an interesting history?

Yes it has an original History from 1934.
But this car is in the moment not for sale.

best
hupo

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

254 months

Wednesday 13th July 2011
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Just spotted this on Monarch of the Glen.

Hupo

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176 months

Thursday 14th July 2011
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giw12 said:
Many thanks for the info Hupo...fascinating stuff!

Does the other one have such an interesting history?

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this is what we build from the base specials.
In Alvis, Riley, Vauxhall, Austins, Amstrong, Rover aso