Used 911 cs2 or F360

[persuaders]

Ive been auditioning used gen 1 cs2's but to be honest have been a little under whelmed. For similar money im seeing the f360 - which lets face it is stunning to look at [not driven] - i can hear the sigh

Does any one have any information on how they compare from a cost of ownership point of view. Im not a footballer, but im not a paperboy either and trying to work out if its viable in the real world for me.

Any input very gratefully received.
Thanks
Steve

[ferdi p]

If it has to be an everyday car - 911
Weekend & occasional use - 360

The 360 is a fairly well built car with common issues, I would allow a fund of 5k pa for servicing & unforseen maintanance... That may sound alot but its better to allow more & have some left for mods (exhaust is a must!)

[persuaders]

thanks -currently reading' Will buying a cheap 360 be the ruin of someone'

[lambo_xx]

Ferrari will cost at least double to run than the Porsche. There is a buyer's guide on Walkersports website which you should have a look at if you're considering buy a 360.

As already said though if it's an everyday car then go for the Porsche, it's a weekend toy go for the Ferrari.

[franki68]

I think the gen1 997 is a cracking car,and as has been said already, the 360 will be more expensive to run,less reliable and you will have to have another car to use daily,whereas the 911 you could use every day.
On the other hand the ferrari will give you thrills and pleasure the porsche would struggle to match.
I always had cars you could use every day,i changed a few years ago to a daily drive and a supercar and have no regrets,but once you get the supercar bug..it can be addictive,be warned !

[Chiefly]

franki68 said:

the 360 will be more expensive to run,less reliable and you will have to have another car to use daily,whereas the 911 you could use every day.

Not really, quite a few people use a 360 as a daily drive and it works particularly well if it's more of a discrete colour combination. The 360 will consume consumables like any other car, that doesn't make it unreliable.

Must admit it’s always puzzled me that some people think a Ferrari or Lamborghini should be immune from consumables.

[MDahmen]

Not a 360, but I used my 355 as a daily driver and so far did c 19k miles in it over c 2 years. it was expensive, but not unreliable - it left me stranded on the road once and at home once with a flat battery - both of which happened within the first few k miles. I can only imagine the 360 to be better than that.

As a few people on here will attest, these cars are quite reliable when used regularly - just look for one that has done decent miles over the last few years and been serviced, so you don't end up putting things right that were not done. Which is something that I had to do as quite a few parts needed replacing (exhaust manifolds, clutch, alternator come to mind) - which is expensive

I found it comfortable to drive (very light controls), easy to place on the road (apart from curbing a rim occasionally when parking) and if you can stomach the petrol costs, then I don't see a reason why you would not drive it as a daily driver.

Sadly mine is now for sale

hope this helps a bit

edited for more accurate picture

Edited by MDahmen on Wednesday 13th July 00:33

[MarlonM]

The poster above had it spot on. If you wish to use the car everyday, 997 C2S no doubt.

I ran both in parallel for a year, and I would have found it a real hassle to use the 360 everyday, they draw huge attention, are less comfortable, have less 'mod cons', far less economical on fuel and my one is considerably louder than the 997S. That said at the weekend, it was great to fire up the Ferrari!

Depends on budget, as you will get a great 997S for £32-35k, but a pretty leggy 360 for that.

[Cactussed]

360 will cost you more than double in fuel. Worth considering if its £100 or more for a tank full.

Possibly more or less on insurance (you can get classic cover now).
Other running costs shouldn't be too horrendous if you are prepared to do some work yourself and otherwise steer clear of main dealer prices. Ferrari can sometimes be a pain due to attention, clearance (they're quite low and wide), long doors make parking spaces a pain. Boot space is surprisingly good however.

Porsche will be quicker, more comfortable and practical and cheaper to run.
Ferrari will be more fun, far more special and probably not much more expensive once you consider depreciation.

[Chaz645]

Have you looked into the engine probs with the gen 1 997 c2s?

[persuaders]

I love you guys already
@ chaz - yes well aware, one of the reasons i've been so hesitant. OPC / warranty is the only way to go

Right now im contracting in london but working from home [the country] so money is good and commuting is 0.
I've had my head turned by this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2764993.htm
I came over all 'video game'

Do i deserve a car like this.?....crazy feeling huh

[persuaders]

Do they hold their value? I usually do way way to much homework - and ive done none on these yet, tugging on the heart strings mind

[neil-f]

That car looks really stunning in that colour combo. Black is usually with crema and I hate crema interiors.

Edited by neil-f on Wednesday 13th July 16:05

[burriana]

Steve, the 360 is a modern car and, as such, fairly reliable.

If you get that black Spider you will absolutely love it and, most people, once they have owned a Ferrari, suddenly "get it". And that, I am afraid, is the start of a long and slippery slope. Once owned, you will never want to be without.

I earn a modest income and make a lot of sacrifices to keep mine... I'm on my third!

And I will happily agree that the Porsche 911 is the best all-round sports car in the world... but it's not a Ferrari.

[Cactussed]

that looks lovely! If it checks out, then buy it.

[voicey]

Buy the Ferrari - my only regret is I didn't take the plunge earlier in my life.

[JazzyO]

ferdi p said:

If it has to be an everyday car - 911
Weekend & occasional use - 360

The 360 is a fairly well built car with common issues, I would allow a fund of 5k pa for servicing & unforseen maintanance... That may sound alot but its better to allow more & have some left for mods (exhaust is a must!)

+1, except for the maintenance costs. They should be a lot lower based on the experiences of my friends. My 550 is more expensive to run and I haven't seen 5k a year either. 3k for a major service every 3 years (much less for a 360), 1k for a new set of rear tyres every 12,000 miles including occasional track day (should be more mileage for the lighter 360 but depends how you drive), odd little things 1k a year (same for 360).

I do agree that you should be prepared for a decent bill - I always advise to have at least 10k in the bank account just in case.


Onno

[MarlonM]

Cactussed said:

Porsche will be quicker, more comfortable and practical and cheaper to run.
Ferrari will be more fun, far more special and probably not much more expensive once you consider depreciation.

Whilst it is true that the Porsche 997s is less special, less practical and cheaper to run, I wouldnt say it is quicker than a 360.

I own(ed) both and the Ferrari felt a lot more lively. It should do, it had an extra 50 odd bhp and I believe weighed less!

[Zippee]

MarlonM said:

Cactussed said:

Porsche will be quicker, more comfortable and practical and cheaper to run.
Ferrari will be more fun, far more special and probably not much more expensive once you consider depreciation.

Whilst it is true that the Porsche 997s is less special, less practical and cheaper to run, I wouldnt say it is quicker than a 360.

I own(ed) both and the Ferrari felt a lot more lively. It should do, it had an extra 50 odd bhp and I believe weighed less!

TBH when you get to a certain level the .5 second or so difference in acceleration or 10mph in outright speed makes bugger all difference in the real world. On last years PN Highland tour the car I struggled to keep with most was a Clio cup. My TVR is faster to the start of silly speeds than Drews 355 but the difference was negligible when side to side.
Go for the car that puts the biggest smile on your face, that black 360 is absolutely stunning and so much more refreshing than the usual red/crema (which is equally nice I may add).

[Kananga]

For what it's worth, I tend to agree with a number of the posts above that suggest the 360 is the more special car. I've had a couple of 997s and must admit the Gen1 engine failure issue was a concern for me. The number of cases ive personally heard about and the fact that Porsche significantly raised warranty costs confirm to me that they're aware of the issue. I have a 993 that I hope to keep for many years to come. Reasonably cheap to run, relatively minimal depreciation and great build quality. Would I buy a non-GTx 997 again ? Never. But maybe that's because I've had a couple.

I went from the 997s to a 360 and have never looked back. Sure it will likely cost more to run than the 997 but I think it's in a different league vs the Porsche in terms of driving experience. I'm not sure I'd want to run mine as a daily driver, but then I'd prefer to have the super car for high days / holidays and a work horse as the daily driver. Also worth noting that you need to be a bit more careful where you take the car. (in terms of leaving it parked, or road bumps, etc). Plenty of places I would take the 997 but would think twice before taking the Ferrari.

Just my 2p.