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julianhj

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8,861 posts

286 months

Monday 31st May 2004
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Looking at buying a new screen (well, a whole new computer actually) And am rather tempted by building my own (with assistance from techy mates) - does anyone have any advice on a quality 18"/19" TFT, i.e. best brand, where to buy? I don't want to spend more than £500, and am currently looking at the Ilyama screens on scan.co.uk. Oh, what's the difference between DVI-I and D-sub? Are they both digital?

Currently looking at these:

Ilyama and Sony

Cheers!

edited to add links

>>> Edited by julianhj on Monday 31st May 20:08

simpo two

91,609 posts

289 months

Monday 31st May 2004
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I've got a Sony 17": thoroughly recommend it, makes pooting a pleasure.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

272 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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One thing to bear in mind is that if you are watching DVDs or playing computer games on your PC, a TFT must have a very fast response time, otherwise the quality wont be as high as a CRT monitor...

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

272 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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Bit more info:

Response Time - Response time refers to the amount of time it takes for an liquid crystal cell (pixel) to switch from active to non-active, and is measured in milliseconds (ms). This is very important for applications that require fast moving (changing) images like gaming and video playback. The best LCD monitors currently offer response times of 16 ms. Generally 20 ms response times and below are considered optimal for gaming. An average LCD monitor has a response time of 25-40 ms, which will result in significant image trailing while playing games or watching videos.

warmfuzzies

4,327 posts

277 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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Also bear in mind the the response times quoted are for black to white and vice versa, they are also only for a 70% state change.
They also do not quote for colour changes, i.e. red to yellow which inherently takes more time, and it not a true red/yellow needing to mix pixels the time to change state extends once again.
12ms is the best response times I've seen quoted, but they are about £500+ for a 17" screen, wait if you can, crt still wins hands down in the visual stakes, tft is too garish, too contrasty, and too slow. Graphics desingers, and gamers still stick to crt....

kevin, still awaiting a decent tft........

Plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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Yep, agree with that.

Depending on application I would also wait.

The price of big bits of glass is silly, a VERY good .22 dot pitch 21" CRT is only about £200 now, better image all the way but the downside of course is the footprint...

Pays your money etc...

KITT

5,345 posts

265 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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Plotloss said:
The price of big bits of glass is silly, a VERY good .22 dot pitch 21" CRT is only about £200 now, better image all the way but the downside of course is the footprint...


And the weight!! You'll need a strong desk to support one. I personally prefer CRT and am the only person in the office with one, everyone else has a TFT. I just can't get on with the blurring but I guess for "normal" browsing, wrod processing etc they're ok.

simpo two

91,609 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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www.ebuyer.com have some very good deals on 19" TFTs at present.

AJLintern

4,350 posts

287 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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Can anyone recommend a decent value 19" crt that would be good for digital image processing? My mum is doing an art course that involves a lot of printing of digital photos, and her current monitor (my old 17" Gateway screen) is not really up to it.
I find my Dell 18" digital flat panel is great for games and DVDs

simpo two

91,609 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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AJLintern said:
Can anyone recommend a decent value 19" crt that would be good for digital image processing?


Appearing soon at a skip near you!

julianhj

Original Poster:

8,861 posts

286 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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Nice one, cheers guys. One bit still unanswered though - D-sub, DVI-I etc. What's the difference? Which are definitely digital? What's the difference between analogue and digital TFTs - are they that noticable?

nighthawk

1,757 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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I've only got fantastic things to say about my Samsung syncmaster 181t.
dvd's don't cause it a problem, nor does photoshop work and it looks cool too.

DVI is the true connection standard to look for, the GFX card tells the screen exactly what to display and at what size then.

my screen has BOTH connections, before i changed my gfx card i could set screen size and res, not since going dvi i lost all those options on the menu and the screen looked even better!.