E39 behaving strangely in tailback
E39 behaving strangely in tailback
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forsure

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2,255 posts

299 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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Drove from Devon to Herts today after a short break; car is a '00/W 528se auto.

Unfortunately there was a nasty looking accident on the M5. I'm not complaining about the tailback, because the occupants of the cars involved clearly had a much worse day than I did.
We spent at least an hour either stationary or crawling.

I happened to have the OBC displaying outside temperature.
After about 30mins in the jam the display started climbing - reaching 36.5c, before we got moving again and it came back down.

At the same time the climate control (set at 20deg - similar to the real outside temp) started pumping out chilled air.
The coolant temp gauge was rock-steady at half-way, as usual.

Stopped at the next services for half an hour; no signs of anything untoward under the bonnet.

The rest of the journey was mostly at normal cruising speed, though there was another incident - and the same symptoms started to occur. However, the delay was shorter and we were soon back to normal.

What was going on? Any theories?


TheEnd

15,370 posts

219 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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The air temp sensor in in a brake duct usually, when sitting for a while, it starts to pick up the hot air from the engine rather than the colder ambient air.

The climate control might have picked up the cabin temp to be creeping over 20'C, and start the aircon on cold to bring the temps down.

forsure

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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TheEnd said:
The air temp sensor in in a brake duct usually, when sitting for a while, it starts to pick up the hot air from the engine rather than the colder ambient air.

The climate control might have picked up the cabin temp to be creeping over 20'C, and start the aircon on cold to bring the temps down.
Yes, thanks. Your first point makes sense; I was thinking along those lines - but didn't know where the sensor was.

The aircon just seemed a little over enthusiastic (I was trying to keep an elderly passenger comfortable),
probably my imagination.

phelix

4,683 posts

280 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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The climate control uses the outside temp as an input so it might well have decided to ratchet its output up a notch or two to compensate for the apparent heat outside.

forsure

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Saturday 16th July 2011
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phelix said:
The climate control uses the outside temp as an input so it might well have decided to ratchet its output up a notch or two to compensate for the apparent heat outside.
Ah, that could well be it.

Fox-

13,575 posts

277 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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The sensor isn't in a brake duct, it's underneath the front offside corner of the bumper. There is nothing but air between it (though it sits in a recess) and the road. It is outside of the engine bay.

Mine has never fluctuated in this way and has only ever given me a questionable reading once - when it was sheered off at 70mph by some perspex in the outside lane of the Motorway - so I'd suggest something is wrong here.

TheEnd

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219 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Park your car up on a hot day with the engine running and have a look back in half an hour and you'll see it sky high.