Gallardo to 599...???

[bertie]

I've had 3 Gallardos in a row now so I'm thinking it might be time for a change.

I'm also thinking that I might prefer something a bit more GT rather than drive around like your hair is on fire, I must be getting old, plus if I want that or for tracks I use the Caterham.

You don't seem to hear a lot about 599s so I was wondering what the thoughts are from anyone who has or has had one.

I would be looking at 08 or 09 cars that have taken the first big hit.

My other thought was to keep the Gallardo and get a 550 or 575 but then that's another 2 seater, so maybe a 612, but it spreads out the use / fun further. Contrary to my previous belief I think you can have too many cars!

Any opinions or expierances gratefully recieved....

[franki68]

I think its quite a logical step from the gallardo,that engine must be worth it alone.I have been eyeing them as well,but I still feel there is a big fall in their prices,some of the stock I have seen has been around for ages.

[Dalto123]

Good idea to from the Gallardo to 599, you'll have to bear in mind the depreciation rate of these cars having heard that some front engined Ferraris can lose the majority of their value very fast, the 612 Scaglietti, there's one on Autotrader at £59,000 with the original cost being £250,000!

The good news is that the 599 prices seem to settle around the £100k - £120k mark depending on age/mileage and have done so for a little while, but I'm not sure how long it'll be until the prices drop again. If the depreciation rate is a bit steep for you, would you consider something like a 575 Maranello? they can be bought at a half decent price and the serious depreciation is out of the way. The choice is yours

[bertie]

I thought 550s are now bottomed out and on the way up, 575s seem flat, 612s will keep loosing (no one seems to like 4 seat Ferraris) and I just don't know about 599s

Do you reckon they have another hit to go to sub £100k?

[Dalto123]

Its a hard question about the 599, they've been out a good few years now and the bulk of the depreciation is out of the way I think, I believe its in the first 2 years they lose most of their value. As for the 550, the prices seem to have settled around the £40k - £45k mark depending on age/mileage. The 575 prices seem to have also settled around the £55k mark. In my opinion I would probably go for a 575 and save myself £50k, the performance figures are not a million miles from each other (a 2mph difference in top speed and 0.5 second differance to 60mph).

Here is a 575m I found, just under £55k and only 17,000 miles from new with a few optional extra's.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

Here is the cheapest 599 you can get and that got 37,000 miles and just under £106k, it doesnt seem to be a good deal by comparion.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

[David 997t]

My advice is to go and have a long test drive in one, I bought mine new 3 years ago and wasn't planning on keeping it long but I just love it. IMO the handling is very good and you can get it sideways at anytime you want with no bite back it's so easy, I think the performance may shock you for the size of it mind you with over 600bhp it should be fast!!!!

[bertie]

An update...

I went and had a go in a 575 (without handling pack) and I loved it although it's a much softer thing that the Gallardo and feels heavy. So over a day or so later I duly convinced the wife that it's be a great companion and would sit lovely next to the Gallardo in the garage, so phoned back the dealer at lunchtime with the intention of getting it bought....and they'd sold it that morning! Damn!!

Since then I've been keeping an eye out but not found another 575 I like the look of, so I'm back thinking again and I've narowed it down to 3 options.....

1) Wait for another 575 to some along or try a 550 and keep the Gallardo.

2) Swap the Gallardo for a 599.

3) Keep the Gallardo and look at a 612, they seem good value at the moment and the kids would fit in too.

Sorry for the resurection, but I'd still appreaciate opinions from owners.

[MDahmen]

That's too bad

I testdrove a 550 a few years ago (4ish) and absolutely loved it. Incidentally it was up for c 46k at the time, so depreciation should not be a huge factor looking at prices today.

Good luck with your search!

[WCZ]

2) Swap the Gallardo for a 599.

[matc]

If you had a 575 how often would the Gallardo get used? As it's still got a fair bit of depreciating to do (boring topic I know!) why not swap the Gallardo for something more stable price wise, like a 360CS? Possibly more of an event to drive after the 575 and should be a better financial investment.

[gko88]

bertie said:

An update...

I went and had a go in a 575 (without handling pack) and I loved it although it's a much softer thing that the Gallardo and feels heavy. So over a day or so later I duly convinced the wife that it's be a great companion and would sit lovely next to the Gallardo in the garage, so phoned back the dealer at lunchtime with the intention of getting it bought....and they'd sold it that morning! Damn!!

Since then I've been keeping an eye out but not found another 575 I like the look of, so I'm back thinking again and I've narowed it down to 3 options.....

1) Wait for another 575 to some along or try a 550 and keep the Gallardo.

2) Swap the Gallardo for a 599.

3) Keep the Gallardo and look at a 612, they seem good value at the moment and the kids would fit in too.

Sorry for the resurection, but I'd still appreaciate opinions from owners.

Never driven the 575, but do have a 599 currently. Firstly yes I do think they'll drop 100k soon, as evidenced by the fact that the one at 106k has been on for a while and hasn't shifted. The 599 is a big technological advance over the 575 certainly with the superfast F1 gearbox, magnetic dampers and carbon brakes. It's a big car, but doesn't feel it at all when you're driving around even in town, and the only time I've ever noticed its size is when parking it. A lot of 599s on the market now given that GTOs have been delivered, so you'll have plenty to choose from, although I do think if you're worried about "value", then go for an earlier model, as the ones that are 2 years old have a lot more to fall still. Yes the earlier ones may have a few more miles on them, but they handle the miles well (it's a GT car after all) and so long as it's been properly serviced it should be fine. I am thinking about offloading my 599 to make way for the aventador I have coming, so if you're interested then PM me.

[Trommel]

gko88 said:

I do think they'll drop 100k soon, as evidenced by the fact that the one at 106k has been on for a while and hasn't shifted

Replacement due in 6 months too, plenty of depreciating still to do.

[iandc]

Trommel said:

Replacement due in 6 months too, plenty of depreciating still to do.

I agree. I think they will take a big hit when the replacement arrives. This time next year could be as low as £80k??

[franki68]

iandc said:

I agree. I think they will take a big hit when the replacement arrives. This time next year could be as low as £80k??

I hope so.

[bertie]

I hear what's being said about the 599, clearly they are still on the way down in a fairly major way.

I knew this but I was trying to kid myself / ignore it.

So what about the 612? Surely they can't get much lower??

Or stick to my original plan and get a 550 / 575?

[Chris_VRS]

bertie said:

So what about the 612? Surely they can't get much lower??

I'd have thought that they still have a fair amount to drop, especially the later 08/09 cars.
The FF will be starting to get delivered in the not so distant future, with current 612 owners swapping into the FF.

[Mario149]

iandc said:

Trommel said:

Replacement due in 6 months too, plenty of depreciating still to do.

I agree. I think they will take a big hit when the replacement arrives. This time next year could be as low as £80k??

Disagree. 599 replacement will cost the thick end of £300k with options most likely, making the barely run in 599 with 95% of the performance look like an absolute bargain http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3165053.htm

[bertie]

Chris_VRS said:

I'd have thought that they still have a fair amount to drop, especially the later 08/09 cars.
The FF will be starting to get delivered in the not so distant future, with current 612 owners swapping into the FF.

I was thinking of early cars, 2005 cars seem to be sitting about £70k, at that they are £50k less than a 599 which almost looks good value.

Depends how low you think 612s will go.

I know that 4 seat Ferraris traditionaly have taken a big hit, you only have to look at the price of 456s, but the 612 is a great thing to drive.

[bertie]

Mario149 said:

Disagree. 599 replacement will cost the thick end of £300k with options most likely, making the barely run in 599 with 95% of the performance look like an absolute bargain http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3165053.htm

That's an interesting point, with Ferrari and Lambo pushing prices up so much on new stuff, will the used stuff start being propped up?

I remember my 360, nicely optioned, cost me £108k new, now the 458 is a nigh on £200k car.

[WCZ]

nothing, including the 599 replacement will stop them being exceptional cars though, sub 100k they are well worth it, I can see them being stubborn at 70-100k for a long time