How much does an SP70 add to your insurance??
How much does an SP70 add to your insurance??
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tvr_nut

Original Poster:

390 posts

296 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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I know this is a very open-ended question, but I had always been told a "first offence" fixed penalty/3 points speeding conviction would have little or no effect on insurance premiums.

However, as my renewal has just arrived, I called the insurers and asked them to re-run my quote with the SP70 offence - it added £60 to the £640 premium - OUCH!

Have any of you out there got any similar experiences to compare with the 10% increase I have been quoted??

Interestingly, the insurers systems did not have an SP70 offence, so had to use the nearest one (SP60) - I was asked if it was a new offence (no, just the latest revenue-raising ploy, based on our outdated national speed limit, I replied!).

BTW the camera (a fwd-facing Truvelo) was on the A1 North, just before Markham Moor roundabout, and the offence was 84mph. I assume it is set at the (obviously reckless) speed of 79mph?

D-Angle

4,468 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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I'd shop around if I were you, apparently a lot of insurers don't bother about a couple of points, simply because so many people have them now since the rise of the cameras, and they don't see it as much of an indication of what kind of a driver you are.

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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It appears that the DVLA haven't heard of a SP70 either (down near the bottom).
An SP60 is an undefined speed limit offence, which may explain why you are getting hit disproportionately.

>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Wednesday 2nd June 00:15

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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In my personal experience (my licence is decorated with a TS** back in late 90s and a current SP**)

Direct Line and its associates = +10% to the premium for 3 points, 25% for 6; as long as they are TS / PC / SP type. DR and DD type points make the policy cost £$$£s.

Admiral (and Bell) add £100 per 3 points.

Liverpool Victoria didn't care (but their policy cost more to start with) and Morethan were fine too.

I currently use a broker who said not to worry about up to 2 speeding tickets / 6 points per policy as "1 in 5 people have them"

cazzo

15,785 posts

289 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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mcflurry said:


as "1 in 5 people have them"




So we see speeding becoming more socially 'acceptable' by the day!

I have 3 ins policies and recently 'earned' 6 points (already had 3 points) upon renewal the following happened.

Car 1 - no change
Car 2 - wanted more so changed Ins co. and got the same price as last year.
Bike - wanted more so changed broker and saved over £100!! (strangely with the same underwriter )

When insuring car 1 the broker said '3 or more points is the norm' and so made no difference - ironic really considering the govt's aim to make 'speeding as socially unacceptable as Drink-Driving'

>> Edited by cazzo on Wednesday 2nd June 11:55

dr bob

637 posts

284 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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3 or so points may be the norm, but do you think that the insurance co.s give a discount to those of us with a *clean* licence?

- they are thieving buggers too!

CH

tvr_nut

Original Poster:

390 posts

296 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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jeffreyarcher said:
It appears that the DVLA haven't heard of a SP70 either (down near the bottom).
An SP60 is an undefined speed limit offence, which may explain why you are getting hit disproportionately.

>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Wednesday 2nd June 00:15


Thanks for this useful link jeffreyarcher - I was clearly misinformed by someone who thought the number after the "SP" was the speed limit you had broken, having been done in a 30 zone, thus thought that NSL dual carriageway offence would be "SP70" (and I was too lazy to check it!).

As I was caught on the A1, will the endorsement be an SP30, or does "Statutory" speed limit refer to a limit less that the national speed limit, so that the nearest one is the SP50?

I'm confused, but then traffic law is not my specialism!

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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tvr_nut said:
As I was caught on the A1, will the endorsement be an SP30, or does "Statutory" speed limit refer to a limit less that the national speed limit, so that the nearest one is the SP50?

SP50 is what is says on the label, speeding on a motorway. So, AIUI, assuming that it wasn't a motorway section (A1(M)), it will be a SP30.

BlackStuff

463 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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jeffreyarcher said:

tvr_nut said:
As I was caught on the A1, will the endorsement be an SP30, or does "Statutory" speed limit refer to a limit less that the national speed limit, so that the nearest one is the SP50?


SP50 is what is says on the label, speeding on a motorway. So, AIUI, assuming that it wasn't a motorway section (A1(M)), it will be a SP30.

Does SP50 apply to ALL motorway speeding offences, including temporary restrictions?

Don

28,378 posts

306 months

Thursday 3rd June 2004
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I have a sodding SP60 too - and it put up my insurance on ALL THREE OF MY CARS by about £30.

Luckily I have an IAM pass and a ROSPA Gold rating which brought it down by about £30!

ish...

tvr_nut

Original Poster:

390 posts

296 months

Friday 4th June 2004
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jeffreyarcher said:

tvr_nut said:
As I was caught on the A1, will the endorsement be an SP30, or does "Statutory" speed limit refer to a limit less that the national speed limit, so that the nearest one is the SP50?


SP50 is what is says on the label, speeding on a motorway. So, AIUI, assuming that it wasn't a motorway section (A1(M)), it will be a SP30.


Update:
Got the license back today from the Magistrates' Court - the (handwritten) entry in the endorsements section states SP60. Is this because it was a camera offence or something?? I will try talking to the court to see if they can explain. Not sure it makes much difference which code it is when it comes to insurance premiums, so I might be wasting my time?

Anyone able to explain further??

jvaughan

6,025 posts

305 months

Friday 4th June 2004
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no change to my insurance when I got done ..

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Friday 4th June 2004
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there is no difference to your insurance between an SP30 or SP60...