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Was driving through Kingston today and ahead of me is a line of traffic. A red car starts to edge out, appearing to look if it was clear. The woman driver spots me coming towards her and then pulls out to begin performing a turn in the road and essentially nearly blocks traffic on the road. I manage to slow in time and maneuver around behind her and sound the horn.
However she sounds it back, completes the turn and starts to give chase. She's sitting on my bumper about 2ft away (no more) and moving around in her lane to try and get past. Finally we come to a round-a-bout and she pulls up along side, holds the horn down and then yells at me (I'm in my other half's convertible with the roof down) to get some "F@%king patience" to which my other half gives her two fingers and she's then called a slag and the woman drives off.
I'm a little lost as to how deliberately blocking all traffic which you can see is there in order to turn around and not waiting for it to pass means I need patience?
I seem to encounter 'things' like this on a nearly daily basis on the road. I wonder if people like this will eventually evolve into pond life...
However she sounds it back, completes the turn and starts to give chase. She's sitting on my bumper about 2ft away (no more) and moving around in her lane to try and get past. Finally we come to a round-a-bout and she pulls up along side, holds the horn down and then yells at me (I'm in my other half's convertible with the roof down) to get some "F@%king patience" to which my other half gives her two fingers and she's then called a slag and the woman drives off.
I'm a little lost as to how deliberately blocking all traffic which you can see is there in order to turn around and not waiting for it to pass means I need patience?
I seem to encounter 'things' like this on a nearly daily basis on the road. I wonder if people like this will eventually evolve into pond life...
I'm with Cemesis. If you're going to do something like that, you wait til the coast is clear. It's the same with the old 'pull out into oncoming traffic' manoeuvre that you see so much these days, causing people to stop in front of you while you wait for a space. Me me me. Patience was indeed in short supply
tgr said:
I'm with Cemesis. If you're going to do something like that, you wait til the coast is clear. It's the same with the old 'pull out into oncoming traffic' manoeuvre that you see so much these days, causing people to stop in front of you while you wait for a space. Me me me. Patience was indeed in short supply
But really, driving through a piece of road that someone is trying to do a three point turn on? It's a bit stupid really. I've never beeped at someone in anger or otherwise, and I'd let them complete the turn in that situation; however the reaction described is completely unnecessary. There are some odd people out there. I was once was caught and briefly followed by someone for the heinous crime of angry overtaking.
A car had stopped exactly opposite a junction I was waiting to leave, the middle-aged woman driving was yelling at a group of girls nearby. She moved off, so I turned out and began following (mistake 1), only for her to stop again, and start reversing fairly quickly towards me. I got fed up at that point and overtook more loudly that strictly necessary (mistake 2). Didn't see her for a while, but she'd obviously been speeding through the village to catch up, and began flashing and beeping behind me at 60 in a NSL. I turned off at my destination and noticed her shouting something, really looked furious. Reading this has made me think: perhaps she was intending to do a turn in the road of some kind? Odd to do that opposite a junction; perhaps she was confused about how one best reverses around a corner.
A car had stopped exactly opposite a junction I was waiting to leave, the middle-aged woman driving was yelling at a group of girls nearby. She moved off, so I turned out and began following (mistake 1), only for her to stop again, and start reversing fairly quickly towards me. I got fed up at that point and overtook more loudly that strictly necessary (mistake 2). Didn't see her for a while, but she'd obviously been speeding through the village to catch up, and began flashing and beeping behind me at 60 in a NSL. I turned off at my destination and noticed her shouting something, really looked furious. Reading this has made me think: perhaps she was intending to do a turn in the road of some kind? Odd to do that opposite a junction; perhaps she was confused about how one best reverses around a corner.
tgr said:
I'm with Cemesis. If you're going to do something like that, you wait til the coast is clear. It's the same with the old 'pull out into oncoming traffic' manoeuvre that you see so much these days, causing people to stop in front of you while you wait for a space. Me me me. Patience was indeed in short supply
It is one of the joys of being back up North and driving that now I can once again patiently wait at a junction, safe in the knowledge that before long, someone will let me out. 
I lived for 10 years in Weybridge, Surrey and when turning right, the only way to get out most of the time was to pull the old "I'm an a
hole and am going to sit in the road blocking traffic from the right until someone gives in." trick. Oddly nobody really got annoyed at this because everyone had to do it to get anywhere, was a perverse kind of norm instead of just giving up 15-20 seconds of your life to let someone on with theirs in the first place.Oh, and nobody waved to say thank you on the times you were courteous, like flashing a car through when there are parked cars down either side of the road...but that's a whole other thread right there...
goldblum said:
If the woman driver had used some common sense and waited 'til the road was clear none of this would have happened.
But that would presuppose manners on her behalf.Poor courtesy and then belligerence when they've been honked (quite fairly) seems common nowadays.
Well, quite. I think the OP's point is that, whether or not he should have waited for this woman to complete her turn, she is most certainly the one who needs to find some patience, pulling out to do a three-pointer in the face of oncoming traffic!But that would presuppose manners on her behalf.Poor courtesy and then belligerence when they've been honked (quite fairly) seems common nowadays.
Cemesis said:
Was driving through Kingston today and ahead of me is a line of traffic. A red car starts to edge out, appearing to look if it was clear. The woman driver spots me coming towards her and then pulls out to begin performing a turn in the road and essentially nearly blocks traffic on the road. I manage to slow in time and maneuver around behind her and sound the horn.
However she sounds it back, completes the turn and starts to give chase. She's sitting on my bumper about 2ft away (no more) and moving around in her lane to try and get past. Finally we come to a round-a-bout and she pulls up along side, holds the horn down and then yells at me (I'm in my other half's convertible with the roof down) to get some "F@%king patience" to which my other half gives her two fingers and she's then called a slag and the woman drives off.
I'm a little lost as to how deliberately blocking all traffic which you can see is there in order to turn around and not waiting for it to pass means I need patience?
I seem to encounter 'things' like this on a nearly daily basis on the road. I wonder if people like this will eventually evolve into pond life...
You behaved like a selfish, self important prick, she responded in kind. It would have added about 30 seconds to your journey to be courteous, but no you forced your way past and were then agressive. However she sounds it back, completes the turn and starts to give chase. She's sitting on my bumper about 2ft away (no more) and moving around in her lane to try and get past. Finally we come to a round-a-bout and she pulls up along side, holds the horn down and then yells at me (I'm in my other half's convertible with the roof down) to get some "F@%king patience" to which my other half gives her two fingers and she's then called a slag and the woman drives off.
I'm a little lost as to how deliberately blocking all traffic which you can see is there in order to turn around and not waiting for it to pass means I need patience?
I seem to encounter 'things' like this on a nearly daily basis on the road. I wonder if people like this will eventually evolve into pond life...
If you keep getting caught up in incidents with people like this perhaps you should start walking, or stop assuming that everything is someone elses fault.
EDLT said:
The horn isn't for making comments on other people's driving. 
Yes but in this case the OP was correctly using it to alert her of a dangerous situation, namely "I'm warning you that because you've pulled out to do your turn in the road you stupid bint, I'm now driving behind you to get past instead of waiting, thereby causing a potential hazard to you so please don't reverse in to me!".Perhaps she misunderstood?
I love the way some people are unable to operate a machine without feeling the need to scream, shout and wave their fists around.
I'm always telling my girlfriend not to try and drive behind people who are doing 3-point turns. She's my ex now. But it wasn't that which caused it. She always used to get to places much faster than I could whenever we were driving in separate cars. Just the brute force of her driving was what made the difference. Any gap and she'd be straight in it regardless of rights of way or polite behaviour. I drove a bit like that when I was 17 but learned over the years that you should have respect for other road users.
I'm always telling my girlfriend not to try and drive behind people who are doing 3-point turns. She's my ex now. But it wasn't that which caused it. She always used to get to places much faster than I could whenever we were driving in separate cars. Just the brute force of her driving was what made the difference. Any gap and she'd be straight in it regardless of rights of way or polite behaviour. I drove a bit like that when I was 17 but learned over the years that you should have respect for other road users.
I had a similar situation to this last week - except I was turning right out of a junction onto a road with red traffic lights to my right. I pulled half way across, to enable me to pull into the queue when it started moving, and the person I was going to pull in behind didn't set off immediately.
This wouldn't have been a major issue, but that for a couple of seconds after I pulled out to wait, a red Punto (waiting to come through the lane I was currently blocking) started bouncing his engine off the limiter - when the lights changed he launched it off them, and then swerved violently through the junction I'd just left with his hard firmly on the horn.
It's like some people nowadays look for excuses to get angry.
This wouldn't have been a major issue, but that for a couple of seconds after I pulled out to wait, a red Punto (waiting to come through the lane I was currently blocking) started bouncing his engine off the limiter - when the lights changed he launched it off them, and then swerved violently through the junction I'd just left with his hard firmly on the horn.
It's like some people nowadays look for excuses to get angry.
I was expecting some cave dweller jokes at least...
You'd no need to sound your horn, therefore it was honked in rebuke. That's not what they are for. Her reaction is just as bad, and perhaps her initial maneovres were a bit excessive but don't you have to deal with slight niggles like this almost everyday...?
This strange non-event event wouldn't be on my 'top ten things to post on the net' list, either way.
You'd no need to sound your horn, therefore it was honked in rebuke. That's not what they are for. Her reaction is just as bad, and perhaps her initial maneovres were a bit excessive but don't you have to deal with slight niggles like this almost everyday...?
This strange non-event event wouldn't be on my 'top ten things to post on the net' list, either way.
Every time these threads come up, I think to myself 'I bet he's a BMW Man.
Why am I never wrong?
Seriously - Grow up and learn to be more patient in future...we all make mistakes or maybe she had been waiting and just hoped you'd give her 30 seconds of your time - clearly she was wrong (but she was also wrong to retailiate despite it possibly being justified).
Why am I never wrong?
Seriously - Grow up and learn to be more patient in future...we all make mistakes or maybe she had been waiting and just hoped you'd give her 30 seconds of your time - clearly she was wrong (but she was also wrong to retailiate despite it possibly being justified).
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