What is wrong with my apple tree?
What is wrong with my apple tree?
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danrc

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2,801 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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When I planted it, it seemed to be do really well, but now it is losing some leaves and the ones on it are going red and dying off.

Any ideas? Is something wrong with it? I'm new to this gardening malarky.

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Simpo Two

91,604 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Looks like a nutrient thing to me. How did you plant it? It takes time for roots to get established.


tonym911

19,089 posts

229 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Dunno about lickle apple trees like yours but the mature ones are bloody hardy things. I destroyed one complete side of ours when the bonfire got a bit out of control but the next year's harvest was more bountiful than ever. Tree looked funny though.

driverrob

4,837 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Dogwatch

6,369 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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A mature tree should be fruiting now - mine (ex-Woolies!) has gone beserk this summer with record growth after Spring pruning and a bumper crop of very small apples.

If the leaves are brown and curled it might be an infection so best they are cut off and burnt/taken to the tip rather than allowed to stay around and pass on the infection.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Is this a bareroot supplied tree in it's 1st year?

danrc

Original Poster:

2,801 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Thanks for all your replies so far.

To give you a bit of background, I bought the tree along with a pear tree about 3-4 months ago from B and Q. They both came pre potted.

I dug the holes in the garden, shook the compost loose and planted them. The pear tree is doing really well, not so much the apple tree (as you can see).

The soil is quite clayey (A word?) so I guess is quite poorly drained - could this be the cause?

netherfield

3,104 posts

208 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Short of being watered is my estimate.

rovermorris999

5,323 posts

213 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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You need to water a new tree regularly for the first year unless it's raining a lot.

danrc

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2,801 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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It has been raining a lot recently and I tried to keep it watered when we had the nice weather.

I'll make a point of watering it if it's not raining - once a day enough?

rovermorris999

5,323 posts

213 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Do it in the evening, it needs a damn good soaking, just wetting the soil isn't enough.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Never buy fruit trees from B&Q and the like - use a proper fruit nursery.

As far as I can see all the sheds buy up everything damaged/diseased/misshapen.

Their stock is often neglected/abused, worse marked 'not established in this pot' which means some monkey cut all the roots off to stuff it in a pot with any old muck to stop the bare root stock looking too dead before they can shift it.

Also the root stock type is often not mentioned at all or is obviously wrong, so you don't know if you have a potential 60ft tree or a feeble growing mini-tree that will need permanent support.

Young fruit trees are best planted bare-root in late Autumn soon after dormancy.

If you treated both trees the same it is odd, as pears are a bit more demanding than apples, although more disease resistant, but pears also tolerate wetter conditions. Regular deep watering is important in the first few years - but also if you dug a planting hole in heavy clay and then watered a lot, you might have drowned it in a pond!

It just seems to be failing to thrive, possibly underwatered or windburnt but I'm not convinced.

I would bin it and replace this Autumn, in a slightly different well-prepared spot - no point persisting with a sickly specimen.

If you must, give it the VIP treatment - it won't do much this year now - and see if it comes back better next year. If it doesn't appear well next year, or flourishes initially then falters again, bin it as it probably has something nasty!

driverrob

4,837 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Quote from "good ol' boy" on a gardening programme I saw once: "Plant a $5 tree in a $25 hole.

If the apple tree looks like it's dying you have little to lose if you lift it and check the root ball. If it's dry stick it in a bucket of water for a day. Meanwhile dig a much bigger hole, discard some of the clay/soil and stir in some compost. Add general fertiliser if none was in the compost. Water the hole really well then put the tree back in and stake it.

Simpo Two

91,604 posts

289 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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driverrob said:
Quote from "good ol' boy" on a gardening programme I saw once: "Plant a $5 tree in a $25 hole.

If the apple tree looks like it's dying you have little to lose if you lift it and check the root ball. If it's dry stick it in a bucket of water for a day. Meanwhile dig a much bigger hole, discard some of the clay/soil and stir in some compost. Add general fertiliser if none was in the compost. Water the hole really well then put the tree back in and stake it.
Wot he said. See if you can get it back.

To get water down properly into dry soil, leave a hose dripping at the base overnight.

danrc

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2,801 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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Thanks guys, will take your advice and re plant the tree. The soil definitely needs compost/manure digging through it. Will report back.

netherfield

3,104 posts

208 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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If you are going to replant,then get a piece of drain pipe cross drill some holes,then plant it with the tree.
This will get water to the roots much quicker,once the tree is established you can pull the pipe out if you wish.

danrc

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2,801 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Update

The tree is dead frown

I took it out of the ground with a view to replanting it elsewhere in the garden. There was a hurrendous smell of rotting and the root ball was covered in a white fungus. I'm not sure if the clay soil has trapped in water basically drowning it or if there was something wrong.

Ah well, there is always next year and the pear tree is doing well!

driverrob

4,837 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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R.I.P. your tree cry

Good dose of Jeyes fluid in the hole now.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Did you plant it in a dead dog or something?

Either go to a proper nursery and select a good specimen or use a decent mail order company - they're listing stock for Nov delivery now.

Jasper trees, RV Rogers, ornamental-trees, etc.

oa

24,107 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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I'd bet that's down to a lack of water, this year has been very dry. Don't 'spray' it, this isn't enough. Leave the hose on it for half an hour if you can.

Oops a little late!!!

Edited by oa on Tuesday 23 August 00:15