Oh Dear! What would cause this?
Oh Dear! What would cause this?
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spend

Original Poster:

12,581 posts

275 months

Thursday 28th July 2011
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Oooops... What do you think caused all this.... I could only guess a severe lack of lubrication?

Main Caps:


Shells Rear:


Shells:


Rod Journal:


Rod Journal2:


Rod Shells:


Rod Shells 2:



ZoDDy

24 posts

245 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Ouch!,
It looks like oil starvation!
Give me the details.

What type of engine?
What did you do when this happen, racing?
Is this engine new or old?
How much oil pressure do you have when cold and when warm?
Do you have oil cooler?
What type of oil did you use? Syntetic oil or mineral?
What oil visco do you use?

I´ve seen this a couple of times before.
It looks exactly the same.

/Ken

dbv8

8,675 posts

244 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Pah thats nothing.

Heres my bearings and crank after running without an oil pump for a few miles.




Ribol

11,897 posts

282 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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spend said:
Oooops... What do you think caused all this.... I could only guess a severe lack of lubrication?
Something blocking one lube hole on crank?

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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dbv8 said:
Pah thats nothing.

Heres my bearings and crank after running without an oil pump for a few miles.
I often have the odd washer left over when working on an engine but forgetting the oil pump is just plain careless.

Steve

dbv8

8,675 posts

244 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Steve_D said:
dbv8 said:
Pah thats nothing.

Heres my bearings and crank after running without an oil pump for a few miles.
I often have the odd washer left over when working on an engine but forgetting the oil pump is just plain careless.

Steve
It actually was nearly that bad.
I missed a spacer behind the main pulley which worked its way forward drawing the oil pump drive gear out.
I made it about 35 miles on the cars maiden journey after a very long and expensive rebuild

ZoDDy

24 posts

245 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Aannd the winner izzzzz dbv8!!! woohoo!!

dbv8 said:
Pah thats nothing.

Heres my bearings and crank after running without an oil pump for a few miles.



spend

Original Poster:

12,581 posts

275 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Ribol said:
Something blocking one lube hole on crank?
It's a tad more widespread than that would cause I believe.

spend

Original Poster:

12,581 posts

275 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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ZoDDy said:
Aannd the winner izzzzz dbv8!!! woohoo!!

dbv8 said:
Pah thats nothing.

Heres my bearings and crank after running without an oil pump for a few miles.



Rubbish! My cranks much scrapper than his hehe

Ribol

11,897 posts

282 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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spend said:
Ribol said:
Something blocking one lube hole on crank?
It's a tad more widespread than that would cause I believe.
Once the engine is switched off, pressure goes, hole unblocks. Start engine again, pressure loss through bad shells, takes the rest out?

v8 racing

2,064 posts

275 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2011
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spend said:
Oooops... What do you think caused all this.... I could only guess a severe lack of lubrication?

Main Caps:


Shells Rear:


Shells:


Rod Journal:


Rod Journal2:


Rod Shells:


Rod Shells 2:
IMHO that has been caused by the journal getting too hot, the way the caps have discoloured proves this, i would say either oil too thick trying to get to the bearings or maybe oil surge at some time to pick a bearing up

stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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What was the oil pressure like ?

johny105

203 posts

230 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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looks like its had a tad of oil starvation and got HOT!!!


stevieturbo

17,987 posts

271 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Still some basic answers needed.

What oil was used, what oil pressure ? Was it driven with poor oil pressure ? What sort of usage has it seen ?

But often as the title suggests, that sort of damage is caused, rather than just happens.

I mostly work on Subarus, and big ends are seen as a common problem. But in 90+% of cases it's simply down to either lack of maintenance, or just plain idiot maintenance. Or those combined with pure owner abuse.

Half the engines I see with damaged big ends, are simply down to the owner never checking the bloody oil levels then abusing it with no oil in it. Then they blame everyone else etc