Opps, car wash owner destroys Range Rover
Opps, car wash owner destroys Range Rover
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ejenner

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4,653 posts

210 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/9150484.Car_wash...took_customer_s_car_for_a_drive_and_caused_17_000_damage_/

Bromley Hand Car Wash being sued after manager 'took customer's car for a drive and caused £17,000 damage'

A CAR wash is being sued after a customer claimed the manager caused around £17,000 of damage to his Range Rover when he took it for a drive without permission.

Hassan Hussein says he dropped off his Range Rover Sport at Bromley Hand Car Wash at 8.45am on June 14 but when he went to collect it at around 6.30pm it was not there.

The 32-year-old, of Ingress Park, Greenhithe, says a member of staff at the car wash next to Bromley North station told him the manager had taken the car out due to a family emergency.

Mr Hussein says he demanded his vehicle was returned immediately, but when the manager did arrive at 7.30pm he was in a recovery truck with the Range Rover on the back.



Football agent Mr Hussein, who works in Bromley, said: “I was absolutely furious. I was doing cartwheels in the car park.

“The manager said he had taken the car out for a family emergency. He said he took it to a garage to put fuel in, and when he drove it away it started smoking and came to a standstill.

“I was going crazy. If you take your car to a car wash, you expect it to get cleaned, not taken for a drive, damaged, and brought back on a recovery truck.”

Father-of-two Mr Hussein says the car was taken to Beadles garage in Sidcup, where it was discovered the tank of the diesel vehicle had been filled with petrol.

Mr Hussein says the car wash manager originally agreed to pay for the repairs, but when he told him it would cost around £17,000 he refused to do so.

Now Mr Hussein’s insurance company, Admiral Group, are suing the car wash for the cost of the repairs.

An Admiral Group spokeswoman said: “We will be looking to pursue the garage and their insurers for the recovery of any costs we incur as part of Mr Hussain’s claim.”

Mr Hussein says he wants to “name and shame” the car wash to prevent other people taking their vehicles there.

He said: “It is just unbelievable that they took my car out. To say it was for a family emergency makes no sense, as surely they have their own cars and there is a taxi office next door.”

When News Shopper contacted the car wash, a member of staff denied the Range Rover had been taken off the premises and said the vehicle was already damaged when Mr Hussein dropped it off.





What a tt

Nick3point2

3,920 posts

209 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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But the diesel nozzle is smaller how can people still put petrol in? I assume that's what you're upset about...

Only kidding. What a tt. He probably thought the joke was on the range rover owner!

ETA I have since noticed I got the nozzles the wrong way round!

Edited by Nick3point2 on Saturday 30th July 15:39

Bebee

4,724 posts

254 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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I always take a phone pic of my odemeter before handing over my keys for service, and I would never leave it with a carwash gang, especially for the length of time the RR owner did.
Does it really cost £17k to drain the tank?

16v stretch

990 posts

186 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Bebee said:
I always take a phone pic of my odemeter before handing over my keys for service, and I would never leave it with a carwash gang, especially for the length of time the RR owner did.
Does it really cost £17k to drain the tank?
Drain and clean tank, potentially a new fuel pump, fuel filter, new fuel lines for good measure, new injectors, new seals, new cat, I can see how land rover made it up to 17k, and if you want to keep any kind of warranty you'll be paying that as well.

I would have reported him for theft to be completely honest as well.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

268 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Bebee said:
I always take a phone pic of my odemeter before handing over my keys for service, and I would never leave it with a carwash gang, especially for the length of time the RR owner did.
Does it really cost £17k to drain the tank?
On modern diesels the seals can perish if fueled with petrol. £17k sounds like a new engine.

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Bebee said:
I always take a phone pic of my odemeter before handing over my keys for service, and I would never leave it with a carwash gang, especially for the length of time the RR owner did.
Does it really cost £17k to drain the tank?
Modern diesel engined pumps do not like petrol being passed through them,had this previously when I worked on vauxhalls ..... The pump gets farked and needs replacing,they were a couple of grand back then on poor mans cars

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Nick3point2 said:
But the diesel nozzle is smaller how can people still put petrol in? I assume that's what you're upset about...

Only kidding. What a tt. He probably thought the joke was on the range rover owner!
It's the other way round isn't it? Bigger diesel nozzle so you can't put diesel in a petrol, as that would screw the engine up more than if it was the other way round?

B Huey

4,881 posts

228 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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As stated above, I would certainly think twice before leaving something like that with the car wash chaps for the whole day.

CharlieHotel

9,080 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Unbelievable.
I was in Ford a couple weeks back letting them look at my car. I was standing outside as I'd gone to walk the dog whilst they looked at it.
I noticed a lad roughly same age as me, get into a Fiesta ST and ragged it out the car park. I was appalled but was told later it was his car.
I would of went crazy if it was a customers car.

Back on topic: I've never seen somebody so furious they started doing cartwheels.

ejenner

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4,653 posts

210 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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I reckon I could fix the Range Rover for less than £17k - As far as I'm concerned it's more about the principle than the cost though.

The family emergency sounds like a poor excuse.

Cars do get driven when they are being 'serviced' as some larger services include a test-drive as part of the service. Some things you can't see just from an inspection. Other faults require you to warm the car up so a 10 or 15 minute drive is required to get the car up to temperature. It is surprising how quickly the miles add up on a short drive like that. Brakes, you need to get a bit of a surface on the pads and discs so the customer does not jump in, get to the end of the road and find they've got nothing and overrun the junction... that would be your fault as the mechanic. So cars do get driven, sometimes quite a lot... when in for a service.

At the carwash however... when you leave the car for an expensive valet... the most you would expect is a drive to the nearest parking space outside the building. But really you'd expect the firm to keep the car inside if you have had it valeted. Bromley Hand Carwash has a massive warehouse with room for about 30 cars inside. So really, no excuse.

jbi

12,700 posts

233 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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MagicalTrevor said:
It's the other way round isn't it? Bigger diesel nozzle so you can't put diesel in a petrol, as that would screw the engine up more than if it was the other way round?
In my experience it's the opposite... petrol in a diesel does huge damage as the above article demonstrates.

Diesel in a petrol will be a new fuel filter and a tank flush. Possibly new spark plugs if they are really oiled up.

That's it.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

263 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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CharlieHotel said:
Back on topic: I've never seen somebody so furious they started doing cartwheels.
No? I know whenever I'm angry some light gymnastics really hit the spot.

blondini

477 posts

207 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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MagicalTrevor said:
It's the other way round isn't it? Bigger diesel nozzle so you can't put diesel in a petrol, as that would screw the engine up more than if it was the other way round?
No. Petrol in a modern diesel can cause serious and expensive damage to the fuel injection system due to lack of lubricity.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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MagicalTrevor said:
Nick3point2 said:
But the diesel nozzle is smaller how can people still put petrol in?
Bigger diesel nozzle so you can't put diesel in a petrol, as that would screw the engine up more than if it was the other way round?
You're both wrong, if you get what I mean.

The petrol nozzle is smaller, but petrol in a diesel, is worse than diesel in a petrol.

CharlieHotel

9,080 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Rawwr said:
No? I know whenever I'm angry some light gymnastics really hit the spot.
laugh I'll keep it in mind for future reference. Will buy some pumps and a headband for the boot just in case.

ejenner

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4,653 posts

210 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Doesn't matter really. At the end of the day the geezer was going out for a burn in a customers Range Rover sport. Why he was also trying to fill it up with fuel is difficult to understand? He must have done so many miles that the fuel light came on and he wanted to try and prevent the customer from noticing he'd been tooling about in his car all day.

the_kato

411 posts

216 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Surely that's TWOC as the manager didn't have permission to take it?

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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ejenner said:
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/9150484.Car_wash...took_customer_s_car_for_a_drive_and_caused_17_000_damage_/


around £17,000 of damage to his Range Rover (sport)


Football agent Mr Hussein
A touch predictable choice of wheels no??? ;-)

wolf1

3,099 posts

279 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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It's not the damage that matters it's the fact that as soon as landrover get wind of a missfuel they invalidate the warranty on the whole fuel system unless it is replaced down to the last washer. Prolonged exposure to petrol will harm the pump etc but as it cut out pretty much on the forcourt it will be virtually insignificant. The owner has every right to claim for everything to be replaced in my opinion as it wasn't his fault.

Had a customer do the same on a 6 month old rangerover. He was offered a fuel drain and flush for around £200 but wanted it to go to landrover. The bill was pretty much the same as the one in the article. Saw him weeks later and to say he regreted taking it yo landrover was an understatement.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Fort Jefferson said:
You're both wrong, if you get what I mean.

The petrol nozzle is smaller, but petrol in a diesel, is worse than diesel in a petrol.
I think you are wrong too

A unleaded petrol nozzle is smaller then a leaded petrol nozzle and all petrol cars with a cat have a smaller fuel filler to stop you putting in leaded petrol and wrecking the cat.

Fast forward 20 years and leaded petrol has vanished and all petrol nozzles are small and all diesel nozzles are large.