Veyron SuperSport for sale at Tom Hartley

[BelfastBoy]

Want this, anyone want to lend me some money?! I could even tolerate the very bright trim, but seem to be a few quid short of meeting the no doubt titanic asking price...

http://www.tomhartley.com/usedcar/BUGATTI/Veyron/M...

I find the comments about the car rather amusing:

"Only 30 of these cars are to be made in total and all sold out immediately, The car we are offering here though is not just a normal Super Sport (if there is such a thing) but a very special spec known as 'Sang Noir', it was built by the factory to satisfy a very special customers needs as he didn't like the look of the 'World record Edition' but wanted some of its features, Subsequently it is the only Super Sport of the non World Record cars that bears the same front 'Bugatti badge' as a gesture from the factory."

So, the 'very special customer' liked his unique car so much that he drove it for 864 miles before deciding to get rid of if / cash in? Far be it for me to question the decisions of the owner, but seriously, why go to the effort and cost of getting such a wonderful vehicle and then just ofload it? Boredom? Sudden need for ready cash? Irrational desire to make a profit? Who knows?

[Lambo FirstBlood]

Best looking Veyron I've seen. Any guesses on the price. Mine is £2.3M

[ZOLLAR]

Lambo FirstBlood said:

Best looking Veyron I've seen. Any guesses on the price. Mine is £2.3M

Agreed Very good looking, the price? god only knows I'd say at least £2M aswell.

Edit sorry to take it slightly off topic OP but this veyron is quite nice too

http://www.tomhartley.com/usedcar/Bugatti-Veyron-G...

Edited by ZOLLAR on Saturday 30th July 12:38

[milk2sugars]

That Sang Noir looks lovely!!

[LeeCapri]

'Sang Noir' Super Sport and 'Sang Blanc' Grand Sport, obviously the same owner ordered them as a pair and needs to off load them for a quick £5M to keep the wolf from the door?!

...Look out for matching Black and White Sunseeker's for sale on James List!

[derestrictor]

Particularly taken by the chunky weightiness that seems to be blessing the transmission lever.

Hideous but glorious; I'm fairly sure.

[JADF]

So, it's about the same price as a McLaren F1. Hmmmm what would you rather own? Personally, I'd take the Bugatti ..

J

Edited by JADF on Saturday 30th July 13:30

[BelfastBoy]

Even among those who can afford to buy Veyrons, the stratospheric servicing and maintenance bills can still come as something of a shock. Maybe the owner of this car (and the white one, if it is the same person) realised what he'd let himself in for after making his purchase(s), and decided to get rid before getting stung for a monster tyre / labour / parts bill?!

If I had the money (and I'd guess somewhere around £2m) I definitely would though. The Veyron does everything so well that it almost makes the traditional notion of a fantasy 3/5/10+ supercar garage almost redundant. Will the SuperSport model be protected from the steep depreciation that affects normal Veyrons though? Hartleys had a gorgeous 2008 purple one on sale up until very recently - it was listed for ages, eventually descending as low as £650k before disappearing. Anyone know if it sold or was withdrawn from sale?

[cragswinter]

Halfords rear lights & an orange interior. Rank

[pastrana72]

Nice, I could not choose so I would take them both if I had the 161million from the eurolotto, however it would not be to subtle and may raise suspicion with the neighbours.

[Shmee]

This is how they arrived at Tom Hartley.

The evidence suggests the same owner

Also, I think this Super Sport is the one that was displayed at Geneva 2011 but has had the front badge changed:

Edited by Shmee on Sunday 31st July 03:33

[BelfastBoy]

pastrana72 said:

Nice, I could not choose so I would take them both if I had the 161million from the eurolotto, however it would not be to subtle and may raise suspicion with the neighbours.

The sad thing is that, generally, many lottery winners who take the publicity always bang on about how it won't change them, that they'll keep on working etc. One that stands out for me was one newly anointed multi-millionare who kept on working as a cleaner and bought a slightly better caravan! Why bother playing the lottery if you're not going to indulge just a little? Why the hell shouldn't it change their lives though? What's wrong with jacking in the job, buying a better house and a garage full of supercars?!

I've no doubt that there's plenty of anonymous winners who live life to the full, but there must be a happy medium between lout Michael Carroll (who blew the lot and made an arse of himself in the process), and those with so little imagination as to do carry on as normal with an ever-accumulating bank balance that's largely unspent?

Sorry, rant over. So, back on topic - if both of Hartley's Veyrons are being sold by the same person, why on earth would that person order two such unique vehicles, and then offload them so quickly? Also, privately at least, would Bugatti not be a little irked that one of their 'prized customers' doesn't seem that interested in keeping the cars (if the price is right, I guess). I accept that there's all sorts of reasons for selling the cars, plenty of them legitimate, but I'm just curious. It's not like the SuperSport was readily available - I imagine that they were offered in the first instance to current Veyron owners given that there's only 30 of them. Is the seller someone like Middle Eastern royalty who's probably already got so many cars that he gets bored very easily, buys them purely on impulse and splashes the cash so readily that he'll never burn his bridges in terms of being offered the chance of buying more in the future?

[pastrana72]

BelfastBoy said:

The sad thing is that, generally, many lottery winners who take the publicity always bang on about how it won't change them, that they'll keep on working etc. One that stands out for me was one newly anointed multi-millionare who kept on working as a cleaner and bought a slightly better caravan! Why bother playing the lottery if you're not going to indulge just a little? Why the hell shouldn't it change their lives though? What's wrong with jacking in the job, buying a better house and a garage full of supercars?!

I've no doubt that there's plenty of anonymous winners who live life to the full, but there must be a happy medium between lout Michael Carroll (who blew the lot and made an arse of himself in the process), and those with so little imagination as to do carry on as normal with an ever-accumulating bank balance that's largely unspent?

If I had the 161million I would have not had any publicity and stayed completly anonymous, I would not worry about the neighbours as I would not have any, life is too short, yes I would get some supercars and these two would be cool for a bit, would it change me, yes i could now afford two veryron's but beyond that no not really.

Reality is it is extremly unlikely I will ever win, but if you get a ticket you can at least dream.

but it would be cool having money to secretly do good things for people who really deserve it, but will never know where it came from and how. That would be cool.

back OT, it will be intresting to see how quick these cars are moved on, there is certainly a market out amoung for the super rich where money is of no object.

[leeGT2]

Looking at Shmee's photos, since they both seemed to be at the Geneva Show, my guess is that they were both Bugatti Demo's and Bugatti have probably passed them on to Hartley to sell?

[char5]

leeGT2 said:

Looking at Shmee's photos, since they both seemed to be at the Geneva Show, my guess is that they were both Bugatti Demo's and Bugatti have probably passed them on to Hartley to sell?

The Grand Sport is a different car. The one in Shmee's photos has white around the grill and white air things above the engine. The one Tom Hartley has for sale has black bits.

[AndrewIC]

Shmee said:

This is how they arrived at Tom Hartley.

The evidence suggests the same owner

Also, I think this Super Sport is the one that was displayed at Geneva 2011 but has had the front badge changed:

Edited by Shmee on Sunday 31st July 03:33

The supersport is from the Geneva show, it has a plaque saying so, chassis number 2.

[jackal]

I prefer the 275 they have up for sale as well.

here's JC's take which I quite liked:

"The 275 came from the days when Ferraris were bought by the white knights, the people who invented the jet set, not a bunch of IT consultants who want a flappy paddle gearbox so their stupid friends might think they’re Michael Schumacher. See a 599 and who comes to mind? Gary Neville? Philip Green? See a 275 and it’s a different picture that fills your head. It’s Grace Kelly in a headscarf cruising down the Promenade des Anglais. It’s Gianni Agnelli stepping off a Riva speedboat in St Tropez and screaming down the Riviera for a dinner date in Portofino."

[Shmee]

AndrewIC said:

The supersport is from the Geneva show, it has a plaque saying so, chassis number 2.

Yep, saw that, hence posting my pics from Geneva

[derestrictor]

jackal said:

I prefer the 275 they have up for sale as well.

here's JC's take which I quite liked:

"The 275 came from the days when Ferraris were bought by the white knights, the people who invented the jet set, not a bunch of IT consultants who want a flappy paddle gearbox so their stupid friends might think they’re Michael Schumacher. See a 599 and who comes to mind? Gary Neville? Philip Green? See a 275 and it’s a different picture that fills your head. It’s Grace Kelly in a headscarf cruising down the Promenade des Anglais. It’s Gianni Agnelli stepping off a Riva speedboat in St Tropez and screaming down the Riviera for a dinner date in Portofino."

The trouble is, this ubiquitous delusion in today's money is simply a psychological redoubt for those tired of witnessing the glut of mass produced supercars in the hands of steroidal heathens who 'in the old days' simply wouldn't have been in the picture.

I have some empathy for this position but as James May concisely pointed out (in practice) during the powerboat v Daytona thing by The Riviera, that time, the romantic notion of some 50s or 60s idyll is just that; it has been censured by the masses, now mobile and ubiquitous, in their V12 challenging, chipped oil burners. (I say this as a peasant, moi-même, btw. )

You have to park such understandable prejudices in a little box, somewhere and enjoy car - any car - for what it is, rather than what you may feel it signifies about you to other people.

I completely understand your analogy, however and there remains huge merit in punting the 'sheer art classics' in the manner of some charming character from The Persuaders.

[JazzyO]

derestrictor said:

I have some empathy for this position but as James May concisely pointed out (in practice) during the powerboat v Daytona thing by The Riviera, that time, the romantic notion of some 50s or 60s idyll is just that

I took my 1966 Ferrari 330GTC for a tour of Europe in 2010. Dropped in on the Monaco Classic GP, drove it to Portofino, Maranello, did the Mille Miglia Tribute in it, stopped at Villa d'Este and drove it home again. 6,000kms of sheer bliss. We sat in traffic once, I believe.

You can still enjoy these cars as they were enjoyed in the '60ies. All you need is a decent car, and obviously you don't go in July or August.


Onno