Any landlords/estate agents here?
Any landlords/estate agents here?
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lazystudent

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1,790 posts

190 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Hi all,

Bit of a random one really and hoping one of the PH masses can help. I and 3 future flatmates have just signed a contract on a flat near Waterloo for our last year of university having gone through a large London based estate agency. When we went to view the flat the agent told us that the desks within the house would be staying, as would all furniture presently there with the exception of one room where a previous tenant had supplied a bigger bed. Effectively, as is. However, upon going to start moving our stuff in, we arrived at the house to find there were no desks and that the tumble dryer, that was there when we went to look, had been disconnected.

Upon querying this, we were told that because the flat is “not a student specific flat”, the landlord is not obliged to provide desks; I believe this to be a load of rubbish seen as the last 6years of tenants have been students and we are students, don’t pay council tax etc…

But back to the main point. The agent said, and we clarified with him, that all the furniture including desks would be present for our tenancy. Is there any way of ensuring that desks etc are provided as was advertised or will we have to stump up for them ourselves?

Cheers..!

Carlton Banks

3,676 posts

265 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Was anything agreed in writing?

Gad-Westy

16,581 posts

242 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Was there an inventory when you signed your agreement?

Tyson1980

712 posts

185 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Carlton Banks said:
Was anything agreed in writing?
And this is it!

I'm a landlord and i go through my contract with a fine tooth and comb. If its not in there. You get no movement from me...

Make sure you read your side of the contract also..

I once made the mistake in my early years of leaving it to solicitors. However, even they failed to discover gaping loopholes!!!!


jimmyjam

2,450 posts

248 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Unlikely to get anywhere unless it was in writing. Your best bet is to keep your relationship good with LL and appeal to his better side. If you fall out with him you'll get nowhere and you're tenancy is off to a worse start.

the rev3rend

38 posts

204 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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The two replies you've had hit the nail on the proverbial head. Unless it's in writing and stated on the inventory you really have very little case. Speaking as as Landlord and now a tenant strangely enough you need to have what you believe to be the case in writing. Otherwise it's your word against theirs.

Sorry I can't tell you what you want to hear.

lazystudent

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

190 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Thanks chaps...figured it would be this way! I'll go through the contract again after work but it's looking like a trip to purchase some desks is in order!

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

181 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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A slightly funny one as you say.

Any false statement (either intentional or negligent) that leads to contract is covered by the Misrepresentations act 1967.

However, if you have a contract/inventory check it. As if they are absent from these, the formal written offer of contract (which the tenancy you signed would be) would in all liklihood supercede anything the agent said.

pacman06

254 posts

188 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Just hope there are no outstanding repairs and the place is in good order, sounds pretty typical, is it too late to find somewhere else? Hope your deposits are secure!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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If you think you have a landlord who is "playing games" then I would do everything you can to protect your position,

1) make sure the deposit you pay has been properly lodged with someone independent. There are penalties for the landlord and compensation for you if that has not been done.

"Tenancy Deposit Protection (TDP) means that landlords who collect deposits, or agents who do so on their behalf, must join a statutory scheme to ensure tenants get their deposit, or part of it back, if they have kept a property in good condition. Disputes over how much should be returned will be mediated by an independent dispute solving service. TDP affects all new assured shorthold tenancies taken out from April 6 2007."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/a...

2) take detailed photos of everything so that you have a rock solid record of the condition of the place and its contents when you moved in.

jimmyjam

2,450 posts

248 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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This is most likely the agents mistake (over enthusiastic negotiator who isn't thinking beyond viewing stage) and not the landlords. If you told landlord he'd probably blame it on the agent.