Track day tyre pressure
Track day tyre pressure
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A11UUH

Original Poster:

249 posts

259 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Hi, I'm Off to Oulton Park on the 18th in my C4S, I'm going to be driving it there then back again, can anyone tell me what the right way to get the tyre pressures right and what they would be in a C4S.

Thanks in advance

iguana

7,316 posts

284 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Drive there on road pressures, lower to 30psi all round when there, check after 1st session aim for 35 hot tops.

Have fun.

End of day pump back up to road pressures- v important will wreck tyres if you don't.

If you track on road recomended pressures in a 911 its horrible, rears will be well over 50psi & skitty as hell.

A11UUH

Original Poster:

249 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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Cheers Mate, hope its not p1$$ing down like it is today otherwise I'll be driving round like Miss Daisey.

GreigM

6,740 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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There's no set answer to this - it depends on the tyres and the construction of the sidewall. Putting them down isn't necessarily the correct thing to do, as you may not have enough pressure to support the sidewall, which could fold and well that wouldn't be good would it. Is it R888s or Yoko A048s or another semi-slick track tyre?

If not, I'd suggest starting on standard cold pressures, then do your first session, when you come back try lowering them back to road pressures and go back out. You could then try dropping and then perhaps increasing by about 3 psi and see which feels the best.

A11UUH

Original Poster:

249 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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The tyres are Michelin Pilot Sport, so not a specific track tyre, does that make a difference? As you can see completely naive in this area.

Cheers

GreigM

6,740 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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I've no experience of the MPS on track, so couldn't say - if it was me I'd start with normal pressures and drop them down to the same again after the first session and see how it feels.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

238 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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I used to track the 996GT3 on PS2s before I moved on to cups. Once geo-ed I found that when hot they needed to be only around 1.5psi lower on the fronts and 2.5psi on the rears below the recommended cold road pressures. I wouldn't go much lower as the sidewalls aren't really stiff enough for it in the way that track rubber is. Before the geo that still had them rolling a bit far over the shoulders (i.e. you will eventually bin them because you have worn out the shoulders long before going down the centre tread depth). That said - until you start carrying some proper speed they are a reasonable compromise and are great in the wet once up to track temperature.

checkmate91

859 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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I thought you raised the pressures in road tyres for track work, not reduce them. Anyway this has worked for me (FWD) using Conti SC5...

SilverstoneSid

29 posts

177 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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I would warn against dropping hot pressures below cold road pressures for track work. This could lead to excessive side wall movement during cornering - I have witnessed a car pull the tyre off the rim mid corner due to low pressures - it caused the car to flip when the rim dug into the tarmac!

I would suggest starting with standard pressures, do a few laps, then check with your hand across the tread of each tyre. If the edges are much hotter than the centre, increase the pressure a few psi, if the centre is hotter, drop the pressure.

Also, try to monitor how the car feels when you are driving - road tyres can over-heat and lose grip - the car will start to feel loose. Avoiding this will mean you don't go home with a ruined set of tyres.

A11UUH

Original Poster:

249 posts

259 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Cheers guys,

I'll be taking a small compressor so i'll play around with the pressures, its my 1st track in this car (ive only done 2 other tracks) and from experience, I feel i'm pushing the car to the limits but once Ive had instruction it becomes very clear in actual fact im just dawdling around,biggrin so probably wont be doing too much damage to the tyres anyway. I just thought if theres a difinative answer #i'd do it.

Cant wait, only 2 weeks bounce

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

238 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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checkmate91 said:
I thought you raised the pressures in road tyres for track work, not reduce them. Anyway this has worked for me (FWD) using Conti SC5...
Generally yes, but I found that on a 911 the recommended cold pressures were very conservative and a pound or 2 below worked well for both performance and longevity. Note that due to the tyre width, having the tyres over pressure is the greater danger. This distorts the contact patch and rapidly causes the centre of the tread to overheat. If the rears get above about 44psi on track then the majority of your grip vanishes almost immediately...

Just in my experience of PS2s on track of course wink