The BBC's non-live F1 coverage. What do you want to see?
Poll: The BBC's non-live F1 coverage. What do you want to see?
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Discussion
Basically the teams have been assured that the non-live races on the BBC will be covered "in full". Bernie has also said that that is an option, but has also stated that he has suggested that they only show highlights. The BBC press release also mentions that "extended highlights" will be broadcast (whatever they mean by extended).
So, what do you want the BBC to show? And don't say "All races live on the BBC" because let's be honest - that's not going to happen.
Edited for minor typo.
So, what do you want the BBC to show? And don't say "All races live on the BBC" because let's be honest - that's not going to happen.
Edited for minor typo.
Edited by Teppic on Tuesday 2nd August 12:24
Pretty much the only thing that will salvage my continued interest in F1 is full delayed coverage on free to air.
I'm really not interested in seeing half a season (or half a race), and sure as hell won't be paying for Sky.
If Bernie says it's an option, then the Beeb would be mad not to take it. The only reason not to would be to pander to Sky, as people would rather wait a few hours than buy Sky.
I'm really not interested in seeing half a season (or half a race), and sure as hell won't be paying for Sky.
If Bernie says it's an option, then the Beeb would be mad not to take it. The only reason not to would be to pander to Sky, as people would rather wait a few hours than buy Sky.
Even though we do not want to see death or serious injury in F1, how would the BBC cope with a Senna/Imola situation in their delayed feed?
I know on the day Senna died, they actually did not show their normal San Marino GP highlights that evening - they showed a short tribute to Senna instead. If you hadn't seen the events live, you didn't see it that evening.
And even though it was awful to witness, there is certainly a feeling of having "been there" when such a momentous event occurs on live TV.
If Sky are covering races live, these major incidents (and their impact) will be mnuch diluted and possibly have far less ramifications.
The availablity of widespread free to air TV coverage did more to bring about safety in F1 than anything else - nothwithstanding the campaigns of Jackie Stewart and Louis Stanley.
I know on the day Senna died, they actually did not show their normal San Marino GP highlights that evening - they showed a short tribute to Senna instead. If you hadn't seen the events live, you didn't see it that evening.
And even though it was awful to witness, there is certainly a feeling of having "been there" when such a momentous event occurs on live TV.
If Sky are covering races live, these major incidents (and their impact) will be mnuch diluted and possibly have far less ramifications.
The availablity of widespread free to air TV coverage did more to bring about safety in F1 than anything else - nothwithstanding the campaigns of Jackie Stewart and Louis Stanley.
i don't care if they show the race 1, 3, 5 hours later than sky, it makes no difference to me. i'd like to see them cater for those who like to use live timing and driver tracker during the races tho.
also, whilst i don't care at all about who wins the WDC, i know some do. the BBC have the final race but what if the WDC is decided ahead of the final race - there's a 50/50 chance they might miss it with live coverage...
also, whilst i don't care at all about who wins the WDC, i know some do. the BBC have the final race but what if the WDC is decided ahead of the final race - there's a 50/50 chance they might miss it with live coverage...
Eric Mc said:
Most times the championship ISN'T decided at the last race. The last few years have been exceptional.
In 1992, Mansell had already won it at this stage in the season.
True 'most' times it doesn't but often it does go to the final race; 26 times out of 61 in fact (call it 62 including this year). And in the last 30 years it's 15-15.In 1992, Mansell had already won it at this stage in the season.
God I'm boring.
Highlights are crap because you'll get to see the start and the pit stops.
Problem is the pit stops will mean nothing - you don't understand what other drivers are doing (i.e. pushing to make time), you don't know the gaps to the car in front/behind, you don't get to see the out lap and how they feed back in to the race.
The BBC do not understand that the formula one season is a story, each race is an episode.
You don't skip half the chapters in a book because you can't be bothered do you ? Thats what the BBC have willingly done to us for next year..
At the same time highlights are skipping a few pages, reading a page, then skipping a few more. All of a sudden you get to the end of the book and haven't really got an idea what happened during the narrative, you just know the outcome...
Problem is the pit stops will mean nothing - you don't understand what other drivers are doing (i.e. pushing to make time), you don't know the gaps to the car in front/behind, you don't get to see the out lap and how they feed back in to the race.
The BBC do not understand that the formula one season is a story, each race is an episode.
You don't skip half the chapters in a book because you can't be bothered do you ? Thats what the BBC have willingly done to us for next year..
At the same time highlights are skipping a few pages, reading a page, then skipping a few more. All of a sudden you get to the end of the book and haven't really got an idea what happened during the narrative, you just know the outcome...
Crafty_ said:
Highlights are crap because you'll get to see the start and the pit stops.
Problem is the pit stops will mean nothing - you don't understand what other drivers are doing (i.e. pushing to make time), you don't know the gaps to the car in front/behind, you don't get to see the out lap and how they feed back in to the race.
The BBC do not understand that the formula one season is a story, each race is an episode.
You don't skip half the chapters in a book because you can't be bothered do you ? Thats what the BBC have willingly done to us for next year..
At the same time highlights are skipping a few pages, reading a page, then skipping a few more. All of a sudden you get to the end of the book and haven't really got an idea what happened during the narrative, you just know the outcome...
Spot on.Problem is the pit stops will mean nothing - you don't understand what other drivers are doing (i.e. pushing to make time), you don't know the gaps to the car in front/behind, you don't get to see the out lap and how they feed back in to the race.
The BBC do not understand that the formula one season is a story, each race is an episode.
You don't skip half the chapters in a book because you can't be bothered do you ? Thats what the BBC have willingly done to us for next year..
At the same time highlights are skipping a few pages, reading a page, then skipping a few more. All of a sudden you get to the end of the book and haven't really got an idea what happened during the narrative, you just know the outcome...
MTR
"Thanks for contacting us regarding the BBC's rights to broadcast future seasons of 'Formula One'.
We understand you are unhappy that the BBC won't be showing all races in future seasons due to the sharing of broadcast rights with Sky.
We know that Formula 1 has an extremely passionate following in the UK and that some fans will be disappointed that not all races will be available exclusively live on the BBC from next season.
We are operating in a very tough financial climate and in common with all areas of the BBC, BBC Sport is having to make significant cost savings over the next few years in order to operate within the constraints of the licence fee settlement, therefore we have to make some difficult choices.
We believe this deal represents good value for money for licence fee payers. We retain live coverage of half of the race weekends and we will have extended highlights of the remaining races so we are pleased that all of the action from Formula 1 for the next seven seasons will remain on BBC television. Online coverage of the race weekends that we broadcast will remain the same, and we will carry all the news and reports from the rest of the season. Radio coverage will not change whilst the most popular races - the British Grand Prix, the Monaco Grand Prix and the final race of the season will continue to be broadcast live on BBC One.
We would like to assure you that we’ve registered your complaint on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are made available across the BBC.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us with your concerns.
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services"
Above is the drivel I received after 'complaining and doing my bit'.
We understand you are unhappy that the BBC won't be showing all races in future seasons due to the sharing of broadcast rights with Sky.
We know that Formula 1 has an extremely passionate following in the UK and that some fans will be disappointed that not all races will be available exclusively live on the BBC from next season.
We are operating in a very tough financial climate and in common with all areas of the BBC, BBC Sport is having to make significant cost savings over the next few years in order to operate within the constraints of the licence fee settlement, therefore we have to make some difficult choices.
We believe this deal represents good value for money for licence fee payers. We retain live coverage of half of the race weekends and we will have extended highlights of the remaining races so we are pleased that all of the action from Formula 1 for the next seven seasons will remain on BBC television. Online coverage of the race weekends that we broadcast will remain the same, and we will carry all the news and reports from the rest of the season. Radio coverage will not change whilst the most popular races - the British Grand Prix, the Monaco Grand Prix and the final race of the season will continue to be broadcast live on BBC One.
We would like to assure you that we’ve registered your complaint on our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we compile daily for all programme makers and commissioning executives within the BBC, and also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are made available across the BBC.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us with your concerns.
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided.
Kind Regards
BBC Audience Services"
Above is the drivel I received after 'complaining and doing my bit'.
Crafty_ said:
Highlights are crap because you'll get to see the start and the pit stops.
Problem is the pit stops will mean nothing - you don't understand what other drivers are doing (i.e. pushing to make time), you don't know the gaps to the car in front/behind, you don't get to see the out lap and how they feed back in to the race.
The BBC do not understand that the formula one season is a story, each race is an episode.
You don't skip half the chapters in a book because you can't be bothered do you ? Thats what the BBC have willingly done to us for next year..
At the same time highlights are skipping a few pages, reading a page, then skipping a few more. All of a sudden you get to the end of the book and haven't really got an idea what happened during the narrative, you just know the outcome...
Pinching that and posting it on Ben Gallop's blog Problem is the pit stops will mean nothing - you don't understand what other drivers are doing (i.e. pushing to make time), you don't know the gaps to the car in front/behind, you don't get to see the out lap and how they feed back in to the race.
The BBC do not understand that the formula one season is a story, each race is an episode.
You don't skip half the chapters in a book because you can't be bothered do you ? Thats what the BBC have willingly done to us for next year..
At the same time highlights are skipping a few pages, reading a page, then skipping a few more. All of a sudden you get to the end of the book and haven't really got an idea what happened during the narrative, you just know the outcome...
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