£11 billion NHS IT system scrapped
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"The PAC said part of the problem had been weak leadership in the department. "The department could have avoided some of the pitfalls and waste if they had consulted at the start of the process with health professionals," it said.
"We are concerned that, given his significant other responsibilities, [NHS chief executive] David Nicholson has not fully discharged his responsibilities as the senior responsible owner for this project. This has resulted in poor accountability for project performance."
The report also criticises the contracts between the department and suppliers – so far, £1.8bn has been paid.
"One supplier, Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC), has yet to deliver the bulk of the systems it is contracted to supply and has instead implemented a large number of interim systems as a stopgap," it said.
The department told MPs it may be more expensive to terminate the contract than see it through, while another provider, BT, "has also proved unable to deliver against its original contract". "
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It was announced on Tuesday, on the local radio, that a Dundee GP practice is to close this Friday, 4 days to try and get yourself signed up somewhere else or 1700 people without a GP....guess where all the moneys gone ^^^^^
"The PAC said part of the problem had been weak leadership in the department. "The department could have avoided some of the pitfalls and waste if they had consulted at the start of the process with health professionals," it said.
"We are concerned that, given his significant other responsibilities, [NHS chief executive] David Nicholson has not fully discharged his responsibilities as the senior responsible owner for this project. This has resulted in poor accountability for project performance."
The report also criticises the contracts between the department and suppliers – so far, £1.8bn has been paid.
"One supplier, Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC), has yet to deliver the bulk of the systems it is contracted to supply and has instead implemented a large number of interim systems as a stopgap," it said.
The department told MPs it may be more expensive to terminate the contract than see it through, while another provider, BT, "has also proved unable to deliver against its original contract". "
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It was announced on Tuesday, on the local radio, that a Dundee GP practice is to close this Friday, 4 days to try and get yourself signed up somewhere else or 1700 people without a GP....guess where all the moneys gone ^^^^^
Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 3rd August 11:17
As far as I could see they ordered the project then tried to decide what they wanted it to do.
Last time I looked there were at least 11 different levels of access but front line services could get to the appropriate information.
The cost of hardware was prohibitive and out of date before it was commissioned.
Shocking system from start to end
Last time I looked there were at least 11 different levels of access but front line services could get to the appropriate information.
The cost of hardware was prohibitive and out of date before it was commissioned.
Shocking system from start to end
t and get away with it.Shuvi Tupya said:
I would love to see investigations into the relationships of those who get these ridiculous contracts, and those who give them out...
^^^^ This.Also, £11bn!?!?! And the media drip at the cost of 2 x 65,000 ton Aircraft Carriers, when the yanks get 1 for twice the price!
First thing I thought of was Carriers. How many more of these fMojocvh said:
"The PAC said part of the problem had been weak leadership in the department. "The department could have avoided some of the pitfalls and waste if they had consulted at the start of the process with health professionals," it said.
"We are concerned that, given his significant other responsibilities, [NHS chief executive] David Nicholson has not fully discharged his responsibilities as the senior responsible owner for this project. This has resulted in poor accountability for project performance."
I assume after presiding over an 11bn failure he'll be stepping down?"We are concerned that, given his significant other responsibilities, [NHS chief executive] David Nicholson has not fully discharged his responsibilities as the senior responsible owner for this project. This has resulted in poor accountability for project performance."
joe_90 said:
Frankeh said:
£11 billion.. Give me £1bn and I will have a working NHS IT system up and running in 3 years.
I said the same, in another thread.. its beyond stupid.500 programmers @ £60K
20 managers @ 100K
That's £70m a year on wages. You could have had that team working on the problem for 157 years for £11bn.
High wages, too.
Some people have made a lot of money from this.
Frankeh said:
joe_90 said:
Frankeh said:
£11 billion.. Give me £1bn and I will have a working NHS IT system up and running in 3 years.
I said the same, in another thread.. its beyond stupid.500 programmers @ £60K
20 managers @ 100K
That's £70m a year on wages. You could have had that team working on the problem for 157 years for £11bn.
High wages, too.
Some people have made a lot of money from this.
Not sure what the answer is though!
andy ted said:
Frankeh said:
joe_90 said:
Frankeh said:
£11 billion.. Give me £1bn and I will have a working NHS IT system up and running in 3 years.
I said the same, in another thread.. its beyond stupid.500 programmers @ £60K
20 managers @ 100K
That's £70m a year on wages. You could have had that team working on the problem for 157 years for £11bn.
High wages, too.
Some people have made a lot of money from this.
Not sure what the answer is though!
Even then, the project can be designed with certain hardware in mind and it doesn't matter if the hardware is obsolete by the time it goes live. It just has to work.
Jet planes are 15+ years out of date by the time they start flying. They still manage to fly.
Frankeh said:
£11 billion.. Give me £1bn and I will have a working NHS IT system up and running in 3 years.
Really? How would £1bn allow you to obtain a client specification that doesn't exist and has no reasonable prospect of existing in the near future? What you mean (if you're any decent standard of program / project manager) is that you'd refuse to commission the project on the grounds it is not feasible.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff