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haircutmike

Original Poster:

22,511 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Cams, not spam!

Yawn, the final, final cam question.

I should receive my block early next week from V8D. Time to decide on what cam to put in, (as if I haven't thought about it already!).

I had a Typhoon cam in my 4.6 that produced good bhp and was creamy smooth with no shunting.

Now I have a 5.0 with the pocketed pistons, I can fit a hairier cam.
I have the usual suspects;
Act induction
K & N
45mm short trumpets
Flowed inlet
Stage 4 heads
Lightened fly
72mm plenum

What I don't want to lose is a smooth bottom end. I don't mind sacrificing a little torque for a bigger hit at the top end.
I will still be running the Lucus steam box till probably the winter time so I need a cam that will run reasonably on that.

I do a lot of T/D's, so I would like as much power as is reasonably possible, again without losing the smoothness as it is still a road car.

I know most of you guys run standard cams but I am appealing to the experienced and possibly silent lurkers who may know the magic cam to fit.

Here's hoping thumbup

Chilliman

12,434 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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ears

I sincerely hope you have better luck with your really really simple cam question than I did with minewink

haircutmike

Original Poster:

22,511 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Chilliman said:
ears

I sincerely hope you have better luck with your really really simple cam question than I did with minewink
tongue out

dbv8

8,676 posts

251 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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I think you are opening a cam of worms here Peter. getmecoat

I think you will end up with a cam that gives you a nice punch high up but you will suffer a little on the smooth idle. Dont get too greedy chasing big numbers and let the new ECU iron out the low end issues later.

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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haircutmike said:
I will still be running the Lucus steam box till probably the winter time so I need a cam that will run reasonably on that.
Thats going to limit you alot

IF i was you id be looking at

Kent 224
Crower 50234 imported from the states if you cant get one here quick enough
V8D 404
Real Steel Tornado/RS234
etc

Why not go solid lifter?

Edited by Alexdaredevilz on Saturday 6th August 12:38

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Just ask Dr Rob for a custom cam cut to do what you want on your engine. It's still going to be a lot closer to what you want than an off the shelf item even allowing for lack of development.

ETA: that actually is a recommendation for those that have problems distinguishing between advices & simply throwing names in hats wink

Edited by spend on Saturday 6th August 13:18

Chilliman

12,434 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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What spend said. It's also what I'm getting smile

haircutmike

Original Poster:

22,511 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Chilliman said:
What spend said. It's also what I'm getting smile
Really, why didn't you tell me!

What's the waiting time for bespoke Chilli?

Chilliman

12,434 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Peter, I did !!! was in my rambling mail last Wednesday !!

Sorry though, don't know about lead in time....frown

haircutmike

Original Poster:

22,511 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Doh!

hiltonig

3,153 posts

239 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Simple choose stealth cam ! No Idea wants in mine as it's a one off but rob knows his cams,


Ps I am happy with my cam rob !

TVR Beaver

2,874 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Whats that about BHP sells cars but torque win's races,,, Don't get too hung up on top end BHP... you have to get there first wink

Chilliman

12,434 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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TVR Beaver said:
Whats that about BHP sells cars but torque win's races,,, Don't get too hung up on top end BHP... you have to get there first wink
Now that is so true.... peak bhp is great for willy waving down the pub... I'm expecting a meagre 360 there or there abouts... rolleyes but it's the torque and 'driveability' that provides the most fun smile

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Chilliman said:
TVR Beaver said:
Whats that about BHP sells cars but torque win's races,,, Don't get too hung up on top end BHP... you have to get there first wink
Now that is so true.... peak bhp is great for willy waving down the pub... I'm expecting a meagre 360 there or there abouts... rolleyes but it's the torque and 'driveability' that provides the most fun smile
Could you explain why a speed six engine and ajp engine is faster? also used in a slightly heavier car

As the rover v8's make more torque clearly in your eyes it should fly past? but they don't.........

Yes im probably opening up a can of worms heregetmecoat

IMO its a light car it doesn't need 400ft/lb's of torque

TVR Beaver

2,874 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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But the RV8 was never designed as a screamer with it's limited rev range... especialy when you get to the 5 ltr strokers...
The SP6 was and revs higher.. .limit one to 6K and see which wins rolleyes

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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TVR Beaver said:
But the RV8 was never designed as a screamer with it's limited rev range... especialy when you get to the 5 ltr strokers...
The SP6 was and revs higher.. .limit one to 6K and see which wins rolleyes
Thats just a silly example

haircutmike

Original Poster:

22,511 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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And back on track.

The Real Steel Tornado cam may be the one.

A tad up on the Typhoon but not too extreme retaining good drive, probably not dissimilar to the Stealth!

Very interested to hear from Rob, shout.

CHIMV8

2,782 posts

252 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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haircutmike said:
Cams, not spam!

Yawn, the final, final cam question.

I should receive my block early next week from V8D. Time to decide on what cam to put in, (as if I haven't thought about it already!).

I had a Typhoon cam in my 4.6 that produced good bhp and was creamy smooth with no shunting.

Now I have a 5.0 with the pocketed pistons, I can fit a hairier cam.
I have the usual suspects;
Act induction
K & N
45mm short trumpets
Flowed inlet
Stage 4 heads
Lightened fly
72mm plenum

What I don't want to lose is a smooth bottom end. I don't mind sacrificing a little torque for a bigger hit at the top end.
I will still be running the Lucus steam box till probably the winter time so I need a cam that will run reasonably on that.

I do a lot of T/D's, so I would like as much power as is reasonably possible, again without losing the smoothness as it is still a road car.

I know most of you guys run standard cams but I am appealing to the experienced and possibly silent lurkers who may know the magic cam to fit.

Here's hoping thumbup
Saw the block today at V8D, all wrapped up and ready to go.

dbv8

8,676 posts

251 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Lets hope they dont have any courier issues

haircutmike

Original Poster:

22,511 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Where's my engine coffee, I'm fed up with work, I need to tinker!


Let's not even think about the reasons why the courier may be delayed furious.

Shooting would be too good for em!