Why does my ISO only go down to 100?
Why does my ISO only go down to 100?
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dibbly dobbler

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11,492 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Bit of a random one but bear with me smile

I *think* I am correct in saying that ISO100 is the minimum on most modern DSLRs.

But wouldn't it be useful to be able to 'turn down' the sensor to (say) 50 or even 10 if you wanted a long exposure - no crapping around with ND filters or Big Stoppers and the like, no colour cast, no need to attach filter holders etc, it would be great! We seem to have higher and higher ISOs available but why not lower ?

Just a thought smile

Nick Grant

5,493 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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What camera is it?

If it's Canon there should be a custom function to let you put it down to 50 smile

dibbly dobbler

Original Poster:

11,492 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Nick Grant said:
What camera is it?

If it's Canon there should be a custom function to let you put it down to 50 smile
It's a Canon 60D. I'm off to get the manual smile

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Some of the canon's have 'hacked' firmware available to open up more options.

MikeGTi

2,726 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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On my 5D2 I have the option in Custom Function I: Exposure, option 3 - ISO Expansion that lets me go to ISO: L (50)

I assume the 60D will be the same?

Simpo Two

92,709 posts

294 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Interesting idea; if you can amplify a signal you should be able to attenuate it too... stick some resisitors in it or summink.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Only the 5D and 1D's (I think) have ISO 50. non of the crop ones do.

Its not a real ISO 50 either, but more like H1 H2 etc where it will over expose and cut the exposure back in processing, and you will loose some dynamic range for it.

As to why, its something to do with the physical photo sites/ADC's etc, and remember ISO is a moving target somewhat, according to DXOmark ISO 100 is usually 120-160

I dont know why we dont have lcd ND filters built into SLR's as yet, its in some P&S (though thats more to combat poor high shutter speeds than anything else..)

dibbly dobbler

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11,492 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Thanks for the replies smile

I couldn't find anything obvious in the manual for my 60 so it looks like you are correct Rob. I guess it must be some esoteric technical restriction which means that this isn't possible. Shame.

dibbly dobbler

Original Poster:

11,492 posts

226 months

Saturday 6th August 2011
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Thanks for the replies smile

I couldn't find anything obvious in the manual for my 60 so it looks like you are correct Rob. I guess it must be some esoteric technical restriction which means that this isn't possible. Shame.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

254 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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RobDickinson said:
Only the 5D and 1D's (I think) have ISO 50.
Certainly the 1DMkIIN does.

RobDickinson

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283 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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I would be interested to kn ow if there was any fundamental difference between shooting at the 'fake' ISO 50 and shooting at ISO 100 and overexposing a stop then pulling back in post.

Wonder if ISO 50 would hold any more detail in the hilites? I dont see why it would but there may be more to it than purely manipulation of the sensor data (ala h1/h2).

Whitefly Swatter

1,131 posts

228 months

Sunday 7th August 2011
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This :

Despite these detailed standard definitions, cameras typically do not clearly indicate whether the user "ISO" setting refers to the noise-based speed, saturation-based speed, or the specified output sensitivity, or even some made-up number for marketing purposes. Because the 1998 version of ISO 12232 did not permit measurement of camera output that had lossy compression, it was not possible to correctly apply any of those measurements to cameras that did not produce sRGB files in an uncompressed format such as TIFF. Following the publication of CIPA DC-004 in 2006, Japanese manufacturers of digital still cameras are required to specify whether a sensitivity rating is REI or SOS.[citation needed]

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_speed#Digital_ca...

jarvie

27 posts

181 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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I don't know what Canon's are like (ste biggrintongue out ) but on my Nikon ISO 50 is down as low 1, I don't kow why, it just is :S

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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jarvie said:
I don't know what Canon's are like (ste biggrintongue out ) but on my Nikon ISO 50 is down as low 1, I don't kow why, it just is :S
Because it's not actually ISO 50. It's ISO 100, but the sensor overexposes by one stop then reduces the brightness of the resulting image by one stop. The result is that you get something similar to ISO 50, but with reduced headroom to avoid blowing the highlights.