Dodgy knees???
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croakey

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1,193 posts

217 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Ok I'll stick this up here A) as someone maybe able to provide advice and B) as this issue possibly runs it course I'll update it

Some background:

I'm 26 , reasonably in ok health, and at my own admission a touch heavier than i need to be. Younger I was very active, swam competitively, achieved a brown belt in ju-jitsu, and played and coached competitive squash to an age of 18...when after ignoring doctors advice and continuing to play daily I ended up unable to walk....my left knee had simply had enough, and the consultant at the time said the knee lining/ligaments/tendons were all considerably more worn out that they should of been, and in his opinion I should either cease playing squash or accept that major surgery would be required.

So I stopped

Since then it's always been on and off with feeling ok, and other than the odd time when it creaks and groans like a 70year old it's reasonably easy to live with.

Here and now... Currently in the Algarve at the family sunshine escape and following a decent 8mile beach walk find my right knee particularly painful. The best way to describe it is at the time it ached and ended up feeling very sore, woke today and there is on overwhelming feeling of clicking inside it when walking, a general pain on and off...and it feeling like it's going to collapse on occasion.

Being the modern hypochondriac fool I decided to google the symptoms and universally receive information that I've damaged my Knee via a meniscus tear.... Great news (not) ... Now hopefully because it's only just occurred and the pain is described as "very" painful it might not be so bad and who knows it might not hurt tomorrow (hoping)

So anyone care to comment, has anyone suffered the same symptoms, what was the outcome etc....

BenM77

2,835 posts

193 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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My advice would be to look into the benefits of strength training for joints.

I say look into it because i am not qualified to advise directly, i can say it has helped me.

smile

Ben

croakey

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217 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Does joint strengthening affect the physical joint or the muscle surrounding? Only ask as when originally consulted the consultant commented that the only thing possibly keeping me upright was the muscular strength in my knee.

croakey

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1,193 posts

217 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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And before anyone says it...no I'm not powerfully built

I just used to swim a lot...

BenM77

2,835 posts

193 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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You strengthen everything around the joint and connective tissue etc.

The problem with impact sport like football,squash, running etc is they wear the joints.

Maybe discuss with a physio regards leg press etc.

Ben

croakey

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217 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Many thanks Ben, my first port of call when home if it's still playing up will be the docs for a referral to see a consultant to make sure it's not too far gone, and then a physic to try to find a solution to it..sadly being 26 and there screwed already the future looks less than promising for them wink

BoRED S2upid

21,034 posts

269 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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Squash is a killer for the knees I stopped playing for 3 years due to dodgy knees back to playing once a week now.

Get a referal to a specialist pronto they can do some weird and wonderful things with stem cells and knees my sister does this it goes something along the lines of key hole surgery to remove some of the limited number of cells in your dodgy knees grow the cells in a dish and pop them back into your knees to grow more, hey presto new knee!

Im sure its a lot more complicated than that but they can do some magic on knees now.

BenM77

2,835 posts

193 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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You might be surprised !

At 26 years old i was overweight and had a permanent ankle support, i lost weight and started strengthening my legs and haven't worn a support for years.

I made the mistake of doing less on my ankle at first and it just got worse, a good pyhsio will suggest strengthening your legs to help the joint.

Good luck smile

Ben

croakey

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217 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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The advice I was given initially was to wear a support...biggest mistake i made, it felt good again so I played the usual 2-3 hours per evening....reality was it felt good because the support was keeping things in their correct place and not allowing me to feel the impending doom!

My major issue that's meant a lack of recent exercise was a car accident that mullered my back and make running painful...however I seriously need to correct this, and will be making plans when home smile infact illl try to get a thread on here so people can take the piss wink

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Monday 8th August 2011
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I ruined a promising cricketing career by not following the quack's advice. I had my first (of many) knee operations aged 12.

Whilst the knee is a large joint, it's not particularly strong and once one goes, it's often a matter of time before the other goes - subconsciously you "protect" the bad knee, until the "good" one gives in.

Seek medical advice and see what they recommend you do in terms of exercise. I have no ACL in either leg, synthetic cartilage, various pins etc, so all told you sound OK hehe

Lose some weight and steer clear of side loads and impact (avoid running, use a cross trainer) as well as the appropriate weights to build up strength in your muscles - as above, the quack should be able to advise.

I find winter plays havoc, and the cold weather makes them ache like a bastid. I also find that glucosamine and Omega oil supplements help. It may be a placebo, but if I forget to take them, they ache a bit more after a day or two. I also find that after a few beers they get quite painful.

HTH smile

Frimley111R

19,141 posts

263 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I biking (mountain biking) bad for your knees too?

otolith

68,427 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th August 2011
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I've had trouble with my knees in the past - noisy going upstairs, sometimes uncomfortable, occasionally feeling as if they are going to give way. I've seen the doctor about it, and apart from doing some blood tests to look for arthritis (which were negative) didn't seem especially interested.

For the past few months, I've been doing something nearly every evening - an hour in the pool, 10-20 miles on the mountain bike, sometimes both - and for the last couple of weeks I've also been doing one or two 40 minute sessions a day on the cross trainer. The knee problems are one of the reasons for this particular choice of exercises. I've dropped a couple of stone, but my knees have started to bother me a bit, and they're particularly unreliable immediately after getting off the cross trainer.