Workplace dress codes - are they changing?
Workplace dress codes - are they changing?
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CommanderJameson

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22,096 posts

255 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Has the tie died*?

When I started out in office-based work, about 15 years ago, it wasn't even a question. You wore a suit and tie; on some Fridays, the IT department were allowed (by special dispensation) to wear their "Friday ties" which basically meant that Creepy Graham The IT Manager would wear a Simpsons tie and matching socks.

Nowadays, though, it seems to be increasingly the case (certainly in the technology-based industry in which I work) that being booted and suited is something you do when the customer comes in (or you go to them). For daily office work, though, a decent shirt and possibly a tie seems to be the norm. Even very senior managers in our customer's organisation seem to have adopted the Indian model (no tie) for all but the most formal of occasions. It's also becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between dress-down Friday and the rest of the week.

Once upon a time I'd have tutted and clucked about this, but these days, I'm not so sure that it makes any difference.

So, if you've got a degree of latitude in what you wear to work, do you exercise it? If you haven't got any latitude, would you like some?

* See what I did there? No? Get tae feck, then.

aizvara

2,067 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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I'd think twice about working somewhere with a really formal dress code. Where I work you can wear what you like, within reason. Even did some demos and talking to the local great and good and we didn't wear ties.

Parsnip

3,258 posts

217 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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If I'm in the office (engineer, oilfield service company), there is basically no dress code (within reason) - T-shirt, jeans and trainers does the trick - occasionally I wear a shirt, never a tie though - but clients never come into our bit of the offices.

The big bosses tend to go for the shirt with no tie look.

andyroo

2,469 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Working in the creative industry, I just wear jeans and a casual shirt, although in previous work I was wearing a jacket and tie. No matter where I've been, the ladies just wear whatever they want!

tr7v8

7,620 posts

257 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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I agree working in IT, ties are now becoming the exception raher than the rule. My normal customer visiting dress these days is suit & collared shirt, no tie.

XDA

2,153 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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I also work in IT. I'm a field engineer so I spend all day at customer sites, and the dress code is black trousers, black shoes and a shirt with no tie. It was also the same at my last employer except they gave us shirts with the company logo on but no requirement to wear a tie.

It appears the tie has lost favour, which I'm not complaining about as I hate wearing ties. I've noticed that if your employer doesn't insist on a tie, you end up with sloppy untidy dressed employees! Some of my current and ex-colleagues seem to think a t-shirt or jeans are accept to wear on customer sites. Scruffy gits!!

ClareC

32 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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I work in the UK for a large international bank and wear jeans/t-shirt/trainers. We used to be be able to wear whatever you like but they have tightened up the code so you can no longer wear shorts, sports clothes, flip flops, strappy tops.

Ties?? - you'd be laughed out the office for wearing one of those.

rog007

5,828 posts

253 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Another complex area. Unless for H&S or technical reasons, better to over dress than under dress, then if events change through the day you won't get caught out. Additionally, when suited and booted it does have an impact, usually positive, on your frame of mind and on those you will come in to contact with. On the other hand, it can get expensive, so as long as the salary supports a more formal dress code, then it has my vote.

spikeyhead

20,346 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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A tie is just a device for preventing the flow of blood to a managers brain.

I often have to wear one

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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I feel like I'm slacking off if I don't wear a tie, I think it's a school thing. Given how much I slack off when I'm wearing a tie I shudder to think how bad it would be if I was in the office in trainers.

GeraldSmith

6,887 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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rog007 said:
Another complex area. Unless for H&S or technical reasons, better to over dress than under dress, then if events change through the day you won't get caught out. Additionally, when suited and booted it does have an impact, usually positive, on your frame of mind and on those you will come in to contact with. On the other hand, it can get expensive, so as long as the salary supports a more formal dress code, then it has my vote.
I disagree, wearing a suit and tie when others around you aren't does you no favours, particularly in a sales situation. We've had many times when customers have commented that one of the reasons they picked us pre sales was that we aren't all corporate, suit and tie. If that isn't the customers style they are more likely to be appealed to by people who appear to be like them, suit and tie often equates to being untrustworthy to people who aren't of that culture themselves.

okgo

42,074 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Can wear whatever, if you're meeting a client then a shirt with a colar is a must.

I often wear suit trousers and a shirt, I cycle to work so it's easy to just bring a new shirt each day and wear same trousers and shoes.


okgo

42,074 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Can wear whatever, if you're meeting a client then a shirt with a colar is a must.

I often wear suit trousers and a shirt, I cycle to work so it's easy to just bring a new shirt each day and wear same trousers and shoes.


okgo

42,074 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Can wear whatever, if you're meeting a client then a shirt with a colar is a must.

I often wear suit trousers and a shirt, I cycle to work so it's easy to just bring a new shirt each day and wear same trousers and shoes.


koolchris99

12,515 posts

208 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Suit no tie, tie for investors

Fridays, shirt blazer chinos or smart jeans or cords, smart shoes


okgo

42,074 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Did I mention I can wear whatever?

CommanderJameson

Original Poster:

22,096 posts

255 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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koolchris99 said:
chinos
Blimey

I didn't even know people still wore those, much less that they wore them for work.

Chris Type R

8,937 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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Shorts (optional) and a T-shirt. Also work in IT - but spend most of my time working from home.

okgo

42,074 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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CommanderJameson said:
Blimey

I didn't even know people still wore those, much less that they wore them for work.
They're in fashion and have been for a good few months.

VeeFour

3,339 posts

191 months

Wednesday 10th August 2011
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koolchris99 said:
Suit no tie, tie for investors

Fridays, shirt blazer chinos or smart jeans or cords, smart shoes
A-Ha!