UK riots: grammar school girl is accused of theft
UK riots: grammar school girl is accused of theft
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singlecoil

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35,835 posts

276 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/86946...


Wonder what the sentence will be, assuming she is found guilty? Should it be more or less severe that the less advantaged looters?

Fer

7,777 posts

310 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Not sure what the sentance should be compared to others, but it warmed my wee last night to hear some berk on the news saying that there were two types of rioters, the criminals and the opportunistic ones.

That's like saying there are two types of rapist, the hard core, and those that just saw someone bending over and decided to have a pop!

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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singlecoil said:
Wonder what the sentence will be, assuming she is found guilty? Should it be more or less severe that the less advantaged looters?
It should be the same, the law should take no notice of her background. However IMHO the Uni should show some backbone and immediately kick her out. Any Liberal types about to tell me that she only made a mistake, deserves a second chance etc can fk right off. She was in a car full of stolen goods, she's too intelligent to calim she didn't know what she was involved in, and she stood to profit, fk her luck.



Puggit

49,822 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Fer said:
Not sure what the sentance should be compared to others, but it warmed my wee last night to hear some berk on the news saying that there were two types of rioters, the criminals and the opportunistic ones.

That's like saying there are two types of rapist, the hard core, and those that just saw someone bending over and decided to have a pop!
There are people breaking down and weeping in court at their convictions. They had jobs, which they will be losing. Are you telling me these people are the feral scum that we know inhabits our streets?

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Puggit said:
There are people breaking down and weeping in court at their convictions. They had jobs, which they will be losing. Are you telling me these people are the feral scum that we know inhabits our streets?
No, but they're still scum all the same, committing the same crimes for the same reasons.

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Puggit said:
There are people breaking down and weeping in court at their convictions.
Ah, diddums. They're weeping because they got caught. fk them.

Puggit said:
They had jobs, which they will be losing.
So? I have a job, I could do with some new trainers and a blu-ray player. I live close enough to Charlton to have robbed the same stores the grammar school kid did. I managed not to get carried away, so should they. Silly them

Puggit said:
Are you telling me these people are the feral scum that we know inhabits our streets?
No, but they have shown themselves to be no better than the feral scum that inhabits our streets.
They revolt me.

gherkins

483 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Telegraph said:
"Mr Johnson is a successful businessman, with directorships in several companies."
He must be on here then...



...and powerfully built.











getmecoat

Hudson

1,857 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Sigh, some spoilt little bint thought she'd be "hardcore" and "down with the community" and had a JOLLY SPIFFING time doing a bit of looting.

Probably spotted on some backwater news network saying how she can really relate to the poor and needy, then having to dash as Tarquin and Felicity have just BBM'd her for a Starbucks and a spot of rowing. Tally ho!.


Fine the bks off her, nothing to be gained from sending her to prison, but reliving daddy of some of his riches might make him keep his kids in line.

Puggit

49,822 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Let me just clarify, I'm 100% in favour on coming down hard on the looters. I'm just trying to point out that the worst people involved in this, will by and large escape.

SGirl

7,924 posts

291 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Bacon Is Proof said:
No, but they're still scum all the same, committing the same crimes for the same reasons.
This seems to be another symptom of the problems in society. The people involved in the rioting don't seem to have worked out that actions have consequences.

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Puggit said:
Let me just clarify, I'm 100% in favour on coming down hard on the looters. I'm just trying to point out that the worst people involved in this, will by and large escape.
Anyone who involved themselves in this is "the worst people". They've commited the same crime.
If you want to come down hard on the looters you want to come down hard on all of them, not let the PLU off because they're alright really.


Marf

22,907 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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sjc said:
Do you fking know what a Grammar school is?
Is fking knowing different to knowing?

Puggit

49,822 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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scotal said:
Puggit said:
Let me just clarify, I'm 100% in favour on coming down hard on the looters. I'm just trying to point out that the worst people involved in this, will by and large escape.
Anyone who involved themselves in this is "the worst people". They've commited the same crime.
If you want to come down hard on the looters you want to come down hard on all of them, not let the PLU off because they're alright really.
But the secondary looters (the ones likely to get caught) would never start these riots, and never prize open the shutters on Currys - they were there watching, and taking advantage. It's great to punish them, but it's not going to stop this happening again.

hidetheelephants

36,229 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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SGirl said:
This seems to be another symptom of the problems in society. The people involved in the rioting don't seem to have worked out that actions have consequences.
Bing! We have a winner! The untermensch have been busy doing what they like for years and only receiving slaps on the wrist from the magistrates. This unrest is just an extreme example of that disconnect.

Oilchange

9,724 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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I think the worst people in this are the ones who committed crimes thinking they could get away with it and not face justice. They are the ones who went on an ego fuelled rampage and scared the hell out of local residents who saw flames from nearby buildings.
She should and will, I suspect, face the full force of the law. Stuff her.

sjc

16,462 posts

300 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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scotal said:
Puggit said:
There are people breaking down and weeping in court at their convictions.
Ah, diddums. They're weeping because they got caught. fk them.

Puggit said:
They had jobs, which they will be losing.
So? I have a job, I could do with some new trainers and a blu-ray player. I live close enough to Charlton to have robbed the same stores the grammar school kid did. I managed not to get carried away, so should they. Silly them

Puggit said:
Are you telling me these people are the feral scum that we know inhabits our streets?
No, but they have shown themselves to be no better than the feral scum that inhabits our streets.
They revolt me.
+1

IainT

10,040 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Article said:
The goods were allegedly found in a car being driven by Miss Johnson.

It was claimed that they were stolen from a Comet store. Miss Johnson appeared before Bexleyheath magistrates' court where she indicated a plea of not guilty to five counts of burglary.

...

The allegations
So, firstly we have allegations not a conviction and secondly there is, as far as the article reads, no indication that she was involved in the thefts herself...

Not saying she's innocent but PH is usually a place where the rule of law is lauded as being right.

Seem to be a lot of posters assuming her guilt.

andrewrob

2,913 posts

220 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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gherkins said:
Telegraph said:
"Mr Johnson is a successful businessman, with directorships in several companies."
He must be on here then...



...and powerfully built.
Can't be a pher they didn't say anything about a goatie

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Puggit said:
But the secondary looters (the ones likely to get caught) would never start these riots, and never prize open the shutters on Currys - they were there watching, and taking advantage. It's great to punish them, but it's not going to stop this happening again.
They took part. They got caught. They get punished. Whether they started it or not is immaterial.
fk their luck.

Puggit

49,822 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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IainT said:
Article said:
The goods were allegedly found in a car being driven by Miss Johnson.

It was claimed that they were stolen from a Comet store. Miss Johnson appeared before Bexleyheath magistrates' court where she indicated a plea of not guilty to five counts of burglary.

...

The allegations
So, firstly we have allegations not a conviction and secondly there is, as far as the article reads, no indication that she was involved in the thefts herself...

Not saying she's innocent but PH is usually a place where the rule of law is lauded as being right.

Seem to be a lot of posters assuming her guilt.
Bexleyheath magistrates heard that a 'public order kit' of balaclava, gloves and a bandana was also found in the car.

Just lock her away, at the very least for handling stolen goods.