Lowering a 360 to CS height
Lowering a 360 to CS height
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cragswinter

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21,429 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Can it be done? Or more importantly can it be done without ditching the dampers & moving to something after market?

As prettyas I find the 360 for m it just lacks the ride height of it's more exotic older brother. If there were some readily available springs that could be changed to acheive that CS stance I would be very happy smile

Also, if it can be easily done, who out there is well respected to corner weight & geo the car so it will handle as expected?

FerrariV8

357 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Yes it can be done without changing springs etc, It takes about 3 hours to do the whole car.

T.

VML

570 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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CS ride hight can be acheived using standard 360 suspension, the dampers are the same in the stradale as the 360, it is the springs that are different. The springs on the stradale are firmer, and made of titanium, this is the very reason I would advise against simply lowering the platforms on the dampers, the spring rate of standard 360 springs will allow enough travel (at CS height, plus the fact the springs will be approx 10 years old) for the wheels to come in contact with the wings, perticurally at the front.

If you do lower the car, I would advise getting the car re aligned. A lot of people will hail the name Wheels in Motion (BlackBoots) in Chesham, but honestly they do nothing that any other good wheel alignment outfit would. The wheel alignment is required due to the body coming closer to the wheels, essentially all the arms, rods ect are now pushing the car away at different angles, hence length.

VML

bertie

8,569 posts

315 months

cragswinter

Original Poster:

21,429 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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thanks for the replies,
being a stickler for such things i'd be best going for aset of CS titanium springs & a good geo set up then?

i only ask as coming from the porsche world there was a few aftermarket options that (depending on who you spoke to) actually had better results than OE spec stuff, for instance to get my 993 to RScup ride height i actually used a combination of bilstein & h&r products.

would the titanium CS springs be the only way to go are are there after market springs that can do the job without the (i'm presuming) high cost of the CS items?

centre gravity also highly recommennded over in the porsche world but it was a bit of a treck for me (up here in cumbria), we tended to find a specialist in somewhere nice (where SWMBO would approve of) so we could take a couple of days out & visit somewhere nice.

PHOENIXUK

2,200 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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cragswinter said:
thanks for the replies,
being a stickler for such things i'd be best going for aset of CS titanium springs & a good geo set up then?

i only ask as coming from the porsche world there was a few aftermarket options that (depending on who you spoke to) actually had better results than OE spec stuff, for instance to get my 993 to RScup ride height i actually used a combination of bilstein & h&r products.

would the titanium CS springs be the only way to go are are there after market springs that can do the job without the (i'm presuming) high cost of the CS items?

centre gravity also highly recommennded over in the porsche world but it was a bit of a treck for me (up here in cumbria), we tended to find a specialist in somewhere nice (where SWMBO would approve of) so we could take a couple of days out & visit somewhere nice.
If your interested I have a set of 'unused & boxed' H&R springs (originally bought for my 430 @$725+shipping but I never got round to it) that will lower your car approx 1inch.
H&R list 360 and 430 as same part number, you could have them for £300.00.

voicey

2,494 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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It's easily done but, as mentioned, the geo will need to be reset. I had my spider done by WIM but anyone who has experiance with geo on this type of car can do the job.

I've got a write up in my project thread.

cragswinter

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21,429 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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PHOENIXUK said:
If your interested I have a set of 'unused & boxed' H&R springs (originally bought for my 430 @$725+shipping but I never got round to it) that will lower your car approx 1inch.
H&R list 360 and 430 as same part number, you could have them for £300.00.
phoenixuk,
many thanks for the offer, i haven't actually bought a car yet though i will keep you in mind. unfortunatly i had struck a deal with a private seller on a car but the sale went a bit strange (how soon can you transfer the money etc) before i could organise an inspection & now i see it advertised with a dealer. bit of a shame but there's other fish in the sea i guess?!

voicey said:
It's easily done but, as mentioned, the geo will need to be reset. I had my spider done by WIM but anyone who has experiance with geo on this type of car can do the job.

I've got a write up in my project thread.
voicey,
i've got to admit that it was your build thread that got me seriously looking at cars, in my budget all the little jobs you've had to do are needing doing so it's great that someone out there has shown these types of job can be tackled relatively easily.
the car i was going to buy had many of the same & most of the ones i've looked at seem to be the same way, i guess i could pay £40k & get one with all the small jobs done but hey, us northerners are tight & i love a good project to tinker with!


markst

247 posts

196 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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errr....my 430 is lowered to the same hight as a CS....and dont do it - it might look great but you will def miss the ground clearance...

i was thinking of having mine put back to std...

cragswinter

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21,429 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Thanks for the heads up, but there's no speed humps around my way & my cars only get occasional use. The 911 was running cup ride height & if I could live with that nothing will be a problem!

marky911

4,434 posts

250 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Morning Craig,
how's the search going? (seen your wanted ad in classifieds)
You want to hurry up or we're going to be chasing down the same cars, come new year hehe .

I want a spyder though, to hear that exhaust even more. smile

Good luck with the search. smile

markst

247 posts

196 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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its not the speed bumps that are the problem.....but rather the long nose on a 360/430, and a question of angles, a slight up hill slope can cause problems ...but downhill is even worse...

mine bottoms out quite often, just be prepared to have the bumper painted.....often

cragswinter

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21,429 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Might be a consideration for when I'm entering the carousel eh?!

Hi marky911,
So you heading to the dark side as well?? Currently on route to the airport for holidays so there's three weeks out of the search already!

Got to admit a spyder does appeal-there's a couple that tempt me up at the moment. I do miss a drop top & like you say it's all the better to hear the tubi sound but I know it's a looks thing for me-the rear quarter view of a berlinetta is just sublime cloud9

marky911

4,434 posts

250 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Evenin' Craig,
yeah the coupe is the "proper one", as far as a lot of people are concerned.

I've been to-ing and fro-ing for a year or so whether to join the dancing donkey brigade smile . I know I want one as most of my mates have all shifted from 911s to Ferraris, 360 coupe and spyder, 430 Scuderia.
I'm just worried that I'll really regret getting rid of the old 911. Daft really, as it can be replaced with another one if needs be.

I've got my eye on a mates (silver with blue roof) 360 spyder. Hoping he'll part with it nearer spring. I won't be ready to search til the new year. I'd ideally like a dark blue one but I'd rather buy a car I know, regardless of colour. His has just had a clutch and Capristo exhaust too.

Anyway, enjoy your hols. Hopefully you'll return to find your dream car come onto the market eh. smile

PS. Sorry for the thread hijack too. You just always notice the names of regulars from the Porsche forum when they pop up.