Freelanders - warned off
Discussion
I am looking to replace an older saloon car
quite fancy a diesel 4x4 for a change and a play
have a mind set that land rover is the only one
Freelander is in right price and age range at moment
asked for comments from a couple of mates who are mechanics also
disco and 110 owners
both have warned me away from Freelanders because of multiple faults and issues
are freelanders that bad, does it mean constantly working on or replacing parts on them
comments would be appreciated, Ta
quite fancy a diesel 4x4 for a change and a play
have a mind set that land rover is the only one
Freelander is in right price and age range at moment
asked for comments from a couple of mates who are mechanics also
disco and 110 owners
both have warned me away from Freelanders because of multiple faults and issues
are freelanders that bad, does it mean constantly working on or replacing parts on them
comments would be appreciated, Ta
Tell them to shut the f
k up coz they don't know what they're talking about...
The 1.8 'K' series petrol had the same problems that all 'K' series engined cars had, i.e. the liners slipping due to hot spots but blamed on the head gasket. They are the only ones to 'avoid'. The IRD unit on the early ones did wear out quickly but my 13yr old XEDi is still going strong and one of the lowest running costs of any car I've owned.
TD4 Autos are the ones to go for in either Freelander 1 or 2.
M
k up coz they don't know what they're talking about...The 1.8 'K' series petrol had the same problems that all 'K' series engined cars had, i.e. the liners slipping due to hot spots but blamed on the head gasket. They are the only ones to 'avoid'. The IRD unit on the early ones did wear out quickly but my 13yr old XEDi is still going strong and one of the lowest running costs of any car I've owned.
TD4 Autos are the ones to go for in either Freelander 1 or 2.
M
read a fair bit today, some on this site, learnt alot (I think)
looks like probs/issues mentioned could be on the early freelander 1
like said - no more than any other vehicle
indeed no need to diss for the sake of a few hiccups though.
head is now poggled - 2 or 3 different breeds to look at tomorrow
looks like probs/issues mentioned could be on the early freelander 1
like said - no more than any other vehicle
indeed no need to diss for the sake of a few hiccups though.
head is now poggled - 2 or 3 different breeds to look at tomorrow
Owned several Freelanders including diesel and 1.8 and 2.6.
Wonderful cars to drive superb ride, dominant and clear view over cars hedges etc excellent handling, very economical absolutely the best long distance cruisers I have ever owned.
The K series weakness can be resolved.
I had two both blew gaskets repaired by a specialist engine builder full repair new cambelt, new water pump, new thermostat and housing all new pipes. Not cheap (£400) but very effective.
Never had another problem with either post repair sold one after 27,000 more miles still got the other after 29,000 miles.
HOWEVER
These cars are complex and fragile.
The quality controls are much better post BMW but certainly until two or three years ago were very poor.
The driveshafts, gearboxes, differentials, discs, locks, all the electrics and trim are really not very robust. There is a high cost to ownership from constant and unending repairs.
Best model is the ES full leather and air con with all electric everywhere.
Unfortunately all the windows will stop working the rear window will stick open the sunroof will jam. That's the way these cars are.
If you have a good garage fair enough. Main dealer work would be prohibitive.
Wonderful cars, undoubtedly. But fragile and complex. Up to you.
I still have mine and will buy another and another.
I am an accountant two clients are garages. That helps.
Wonderful cars to drive superb ride, dominant and clear view over cars hedges etc excellent handling, very economical absolutely the best long distance cruisers I have ever owned.
The K series weakness can be resolved.
I had two both blew gaskets repaired by a specialist engine builder full repair new cambelt, new water pump, new thermostat and housing all new pipes. Not cheap (£400) but very effective.
Never had another problem with either post repair sold one after 27,000 more miles still got the other after 29,000 miles.
HOWEVER
These cars are complex and fragile.
The quality controls are much better post BMW but certainly until two or three years ago were very poor.
The driveshafts, gearboxes, differentials, discs, locks, all the electrics and trim are really not very robust. There is a high cost to ownership from constant and unending repairs.
Best model is the ES full leather and air con with all electric everywhere.
Unfortunately all the windows will stop working the rear window will stick open the sunroof will jam. That's the way these cars are.
If you have a good garage fair enough. Main dealer work would be prohibitive.
Wonderful cars, undoubtedly. But fragile and complex. Up to you.
I still have mine and will buy another and another.
I am an accountant two clients are garages. That helps.
Steffan said:
Owned several Freelanders including diesel and 1.8 and 2.6.
Wonderful cars to drive superb ride, dominant and clear view over cars hedges etc excellent handling, very economical absolutely the best long distance cruisers I have ever owned.
The K series weakness can be resolved.
I had two both blew gaskets repaired by a specialist engine builder full repair new cambelt, new water pump, new thermostat and housing all new pipes. Not cheap (£400) but very effective.
Never had another problem with either post repair sold one after 27,000 more miles still got the other after 29,000 miles.
HOWEVER
These cars are complex and fragile.
The quality controls are much better post BMW but certainly until two or three years ago were very poor.
The driveshafts, gearboxes, differentials, discs, locks, all the electrics and trim are really not very robust. There is a high cost to ownership from constant and unending repairs.
Best model is the ES full leather and air con with all electric everywhere.
Unfortunately all the windows will stop working the rear window will stick open the sunroof will jam. That's the way these cars are.
If you have a good garage fair enough. Main dealer work would be prohibitive.
Wonderful cars, undoubtedly. But fragile and complex. Up to you.
I still have mine and will buy another and another.
I am an accountant two clients are garages. That helps.
an honest view - buy LR at your peril!Wonderful cars to drive superb ride, dominant and clear view over cars hedges etc excellent handling, very economical absolutely the best long distance cruisers I have ever owned.
The K series weakness can be resolved.
I had two both blew gaskets repaired by a specialist engine builder full repair new cambelt, new water pump, new thermostat and housing all new pipes. Not cheap (£400) but very effective.
Never had another problem with either post repair sold one after 27,000 more miles still got the other after 29,000 miles.
HOWEVER
These cars are complex and fragile.
The quality controls are much better post BMW but certainly until two or three years ago were very poor.
The driveshafts, gearboxes, differentials, discs, locks, all the electrics and trim are really not very robust. There is a high cost to ownership from constant and unending repairs.
Best model is the ES full leather and air con with all electric everywhere.
Unfortunately all the windows will stop working the rear window will stick open the sunroof will jam. That's the way these cars are.
If you have a good garage fair enough. Main dealer work would be prohibitive.
Wonderful cars, undoubtedly. But fragile and complex. Up to you.
I still have mine and will buy another and another.
I am an accountant two clients are garages. That helps.
main dealers see you are a 'money supply' and LR UK will treat you as a mug!
Edited by grand cherokee on Saturday 13th August 12:18
Steffan said:
I had two both blew gaskets repaired by a specialist engine builder full repair new cambelt, new water pump, new thermostat and housing all new pipes. Not cheap (£400) but very effective.
Never had another problem with either post repair sold one after 27,000 more miles still got
I've had Kseries engines in cars, had same rebuild. And seen 70,000 miles of hard/abusive driving straight away afterwards. Never missed a beatNever had another problem with either post repair sold one after 27,000 more miles still got
camel_landy said:
Tell them to shut the fk up coz they don't know what they're talking about...
The 1.8 'K' series petrol had the same problems that all 'K' series engined cars had, i.e. the liners slipping due to hot spots but blamed on the head gasket. They are the only ones to 'avoid'. The IRD unit on the early ones did wear out quickly but my 13yr old XEDi is still going strong and one of the lowest running costs of any car I've owned.
TD4 Autos are the ones to go for in either Freelander 1 or 2.
M
i've had more Lr/RR's than you have had hot dinners - and they all have had major problems in one way or the other!k up coz they don't know what they're talking about...The 1.8 'K' series petrol had the same problems that all 'K' series engined cars had, i.e. the liners slipping due to hot spots but blamed on the head gasket. They are the only ones to 'avoid'. The IRD unit on the early ones did wear out quickly but my 13yr old XEDi is still going strong and one of the lowest running costs of any car I've owned.
TD4 Autos are the ones to go for in either Freelander 1 or 2.
M
ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the s
te sold to you and me!grand cherokee said:
i've had more Lr/RR's than you have had hot dinners - and they all have had major problems in one way or the other!
ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the ste sold to you and me!
One also assumes that the Royal cars are custom built with armour plating, bullet proof glass, run flat tyres etc. Also they can throw money at the cars to make sure they are 100% reliable. ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the s
te sold to you and me!I have a 04 freeby 1 td4 se. Ive had it 2 1/2 years and covered 28k in it.
Yes there have been a few issues with it, mostly due to my local landrover specialist being a complete and trying to rip me off.
Almost all his work has been replaced with new parts.
Its now covered 15k since last set of work was done on it, its towed both cars, vans and trailers. Coped with 2 scottish winters and has been on several PH runs as well.
I would say they are good cars, buy them knowing they like maintanance and hate neglect. Get a GOOD garage to work on it and you will have a car that will make you happy.
Also be aware that many main dealers are useless, if your buying a freeby2 then look for a good dealer.
They are out there.
Mine on my road to work, no issues even in the parts not cleared by farmers.
Yes there have been a few issues with it, mostly due to my local landrover specialist being a complete
and trying to rip me off. Almost all his work has been replaced with new parts.
Its now covered 15k since last set of work was done on it, its towed both cars, vans and trailers. Coped with 2 scottish winters and has been on several PH runs as well.
I would say they are good cars, buy them knowing they like maintanance and hate neglect. Get a GOOD garage to work on it and you will have a car that will make you happy.
Also be aware that many main dealers are useless, if your buying a freeby2 then look for a good dealer.
They are out there.
Mine on my road to work, no issues even in the parts not cleared by farmers.
grand cherokee said:
steer clear of ANY LR - see my most recent post
see also recent survey where LR came top on unreliability!
Your recent post where you complain that LR won't pay to fix your 6 year old car that you bought privately (second hand).see also recent survey where LR came top on unreliability!
Or your recent post where you state that you have had more LR/RR than hot dinners, and they all had major problems? I don't get it, you hate LR so you buy another one, that breaks so you hate LR even more so you buy another one, that breaks so you hate LR even more so you buy another one (and repeat). If you hate them so much why keep buying them, also if you know how unreliable they are why on earth wold you buy privately without a warranty.
Cuckoo.
Edited by HowMuchLonger on Saturday 13th August 19:30
grand cherokee said:
i've had more Lr/RR's than you have had hot dinners - and they all have had major problems in one way or the other!
ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the ste sold to you and me!
Shut up!ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the s
te sold to you and me!
grand cherokee said:
ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
In my experience squaddies love landys as much as they 'hate' them.how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
The fact landys are not armoured is hardly the fault of the maker.
A MoD spec defender is about half the price of a HMMWV; the Daily Mail moan that a small child dies every time a MoD civil servant wastes money and you want them to buy more expensive light utility vehicles? Politics colours every major defence contract.
camel_landy said:
grand cherokee said:
i've had more Lr/RR's than you have had hot dinners - and they all have had major problems in one way or the other!
ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the ste sold to you and me!
Shut up!ask anyone in the army about how they 'hate' LR's?
how many lives have been lost because of the LR?
but politics demand they buy LR rather than Humvee (SAS use Humvee in Iraq/Stan btw)
why does the royal family/diplomatic service buy LR? - political pressure to buy 'British'
though 'inside' sources say diplomatic/royal family LR come off a 'special' production line - ie not the s
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