First Riot Eviction
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Flintstone

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8,644 posts

277 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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I'll believe it when I see them out on the street with their belongings in bin liners but Wandsworth Council say they will be issuing their first eviction notice to the family of a rioter.



"A council tenant whose son has appeared in court charged in connection with Monday night’s disturbances in Clapham Junction will today (Friday) be served with an eviction notice.
The tenant is believed to be the first in the country to now be facing the prospect of losing their council-owned home as a result of Monday night's rioting and looting.
The notice is the first stage in the legal process of eviction. The notice gives warning that the council will be seeking possession of the property and that an application will be made to the courts seeking the tenant's eviction. The final decision will rest with a judge sitting at the county court.
Neither the tenant nor their son can be named at this stage for legal reasons.
Wandsworth Council has acted immediately in the wake of local magistrates courts hearings to instigate tough action against tenants or members of their households who were directly involved in the disturbances.

Council leader Ravi Govindia welcomed the swift action by the housing department and added: "In Wandsworth we are determined to take the strongest possible action against any tenant or member of their household responsible for the truly shocking behaviour perpetrated on local homes and businesses earlier this week.
"This council will do its utmost to ensure that those who are responsible pay a proper price for their conduct. Ultimately this could lead to eviction from their homes.
"Our officers will continue to work with the courts to establish the identities of other council tenants or members of their households as more cases are processed in the coming days and weeks."
"Most residents on our housing estates are decent law-abiding citizens who will have been sickened at the scenes they witnessed on their TV screens this week. Many will have seen their places of work trashed at the hands of these rioters. As much as anything else we owe it to them to send out a strong signal that this kind of violence will not be tolerated."
The council is able to commence eviction proceedings against this tenant for breaching their tenancy agreement. Under the terms of the agreement, which applies to all the council's rented accommodation, all tenants, their household members and visitors are forbidden from a range of criminal and anti-social activities. Breaches of the agreement render them liable to eviction
Cllr Govindia added: "When you move into a council property, you have to agree to comply with certain tenancy conditions. If you break those conditions you risk losing your home.
"There is no room on our estates for people who commit violent crimes, who show no consideration for their neighbours or harass, threaten, intimidate or cause disturbance to others."


http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/news/article/10626/fi...

Thom987

3,185 posts

196 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Can't see it happenning to be honest, but its still a good move.

Westy Pre-Lit

5,088 posts

233 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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The thieving politicians who are proposing such actions(and I whole heartedly agree with them)are forgetting they had their hand in the till not so long ago. Leading from the top, they should be setting an example to the rest of us are quite frankly no better than the thieving vermin we have seen over the last week destroying their own communities. And we all wonder why we are in such a mess as we find ourselves today.

Decent normal hardworking people should just dig a bloody big hole in the ground and tip the fking lot of them down it and start afresh.

I have no interest in engaging or understanding either faction to be quite honest.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

230 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Anyone concerned where these families are going to go, if is the thin end of the wedge, if they are not is not in social housing, then where? And before flaming.... I mean if they are going into the private sector, then it's quite possible that some poor unfortunate law abiding, tax paying owner occupier, or private tenant for that matter, may if some dim witted and absent buy to let landlord, might, just might, inflict them on a whole lot of nice people.

So rather than over there, on that estate you can usually ignore, they might be your next neighbours.

BoRED S2upid

21,088 posts

270 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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They will just be moved to another area. They wont be making them homeless.

mitzy

13,858 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Agree just moving the problem to another area.

But lets hope it does make them think







Laurel Green

31,224 posts

262 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Crazy rules and regs allow for them to be re-homed after being evicted. Should hand them a cardboard box and be done with them!

turbobloke

117,401 posts

290 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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BoRED S2upid said:
They will just be moved to another area. They wont be making them homeless.
That case in Wandsworth has brought some really surprising comments, who would have expected these remarks:

"what about my human rights?" says Daniel Sartain-Clarke's mother.

"he was in the wrong place at the wrong time"

scratchchin

Manchester.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/86991...

Yesterday, the mother of the 12-year-old boy described losing their home as her “biggest fear”. She said there was “no excuse” for his behaviour and said she had grounded him. She also admitted she had been reprimanded for her parenting skills by her own mother. “My mum saw it and called me saying I need to get control of him and be careful because I could lose this house,” she said. “That’s my biggest fear now, I’m scared we will be kicked out.”

Seems like a good deterrent as well as an appropriate response to breach of tenancy agreements.

GMPLod Twitter feed extracts:

gmpolice GM Police
Mum-of-two, not involved in disorder, jailed for FIVE months for accepting shorts looted from shop. There are no excuses!
1 hour ago

gmpolice GM Police
We said we were coming for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8oUwuJIrEo&fea...
11 hours ago

gmpolice GM Police
Man from London just travelled up from the capital all the way to Manchester to hand himself in after seeing himself looting on the TV
12 hours ago

gmpolice GM Police
Another has just handed himself in after his friend saw him on the Shop a Looter ad van and said his face was everywhere and could not hide
14 hours ago

gmpolice GM Police
Another mother has forced her son to hand himself in over the disorder in Manchester after seeing his picture
15 hours ago

gmpolice GM Police
ACC Garry Shewan just arrested a man within four hours of his face being published on the Shop a Looter ad vans

gmpolice GM Police
14-year-old boy just charged with burglary after mum saw his picture in a newspaper and dragged him to a police station
15 hours ago

gmpolice GM Police
Just locked up another man for stolen goods after he bragged on Facebook he couldn't be caught. Wrong.
16 hours ago

http://twitter.com/#!/gmpolice

Meanwhile other councils 'vow to follow suit and boot out looters from homes as minister draws up plans to cut rioters' benefits'.

Roger Dodger

12,424 posts

224 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

241 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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GMP have really been very good throughout this. MET have done some food stuff but I think GMP have been very quick to utilise social media and take the fight to the looters etc.

turbobloke

117,401 posts

290 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
GMP have really been very good throughout this. MET have done some food stuff but I think GMP have been very quick to utilise social media and take the fight to the looters etc.
yes

No grumble here with either, but GMP have been superb and I'm sure many PHers have contacted them to pass on thanks and messages of support.

chris watton

22,547 posts

290 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Perhaps in future, any council tenants should have to sign more stringent T&C's - and be made plain that if they do anything to endanger their own community or cause grief, then they will lose both their rented property and housing benefit - no ifs, no buts. If they cannot uphold their part of the bargain, then why should we as taxpayers hold ours by paying the tax that keeps these people in free housing and money, but are still allowed to carry on with impunity whilst an army of social workers and apologists protect them, as has thus far been the case (or so it seems).

JonnyFive

29,904 posts

219 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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turbobloke said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
GMP have really been very good throughout this. MET have done some food stuff but I think GMP have been very quick to utilise social media and take the fight to the looters etc.
yes

No grumble here with either, but GMP have been superb and I'm sure many PHers have contacted them to pass on thanks and messages of support.
Agreed. They've been brilliant, from the hit squad going around arresting rioters the proper way with some baton whacks to the social media aspect, and that one message; "We're going to come and get you", does mean alot.

Good Policing and I did submit a form to them WRT their Policing and how I was happy with it.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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But where will they be moved to?

Sadly they won't be kicked out onto the streets

Can't they just build an estate somewhere for just the human trash instead of sticking them in with decent people.

And by decent i mean those that don't turn their entire area into a sthole I don't mean the unemployed

Apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Northern Munkee said:
Anyone concerned where these families are going to go, if is the thin end of the wedge, if they are not is not in social housing, then where? And before flaming.... I mean if they are going into the private sector, then it's quite possible that some poor unfortunate law abiding, tax paying owner occupier, or private tenant for that matter, may if some dim witted and absent buy to let landlord, might, just might, inflict them on a whole lot of nice people.

So rather than over there, on that estate you can usually ignore, they might be your next neighbours.
Huge sink estates spawned these people, you can't ignore em as they come out, rob you and I then go back, we need to break them up not make them bigger. One scumbag family can be dealt with much more conveniently than a gang of em, plus they tend to be a lot less bolshie on their own. Divide and Conquer

otolith

69,436 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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They will be treated as if they have made themselves deliberately homeless. That means that the council is obliged to put a roof over their heads, but not to rehome them. Basically, hostels.

Apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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otolith said:
They will be treated as if they have made themselves deliberately homeless. That means that the council is obliged to put a roof over their heads, but not to rehome them. Basically, hostels.
If they're lucky. Councils house people by priority so anyone making themselves homeless will be at the bottom of a long list. With very few houses available...........

otolith

69,436 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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They won't get another council house, but they will get a hostel or b&b place. Or they will make their own arrangements. They won't be on the streets.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

191 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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by all means stick the offender in prison if he is found guilty - but is making a an eight-year old girl homeless because her 18-year old brother is a dhead really the way forward?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024605/UK...

Uhura fighter

7,018 posts

213 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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rover 623gsi said:
by all means stick the offender in prison if he is found guilty - but is making a an eight-year old girl homeless because her 18-year old brother is a dhead really the way forward?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024605/UK...
Yes.

Social housing is a privilege not a right. A tenancy agreement was signed.

Off to the private sector they go.

Maybe now the mother will do some parenting....