Budget Winter tyres?
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frankthetank2

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629 posts

214 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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I am considering buying some effiplus epluto i winter tyres, thought its a good time to buy now whilst there is still stock. Does anyone have experience with this tyre considering it is a budget winter tyre I don't know if spending more would benefit.

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oldcynic

2,166 posts

191 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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I don't know about these particular tyres, but I do know that stock levels will peak around mid/late September.

I also know that there can be enormous differences in performance between decent winter tyres and cheap ones, same as for summer tyres so personally I'd be reluctant to compromise by getting an unknown brand in the hope of saving money - my only collision in the snow was at about 5mph and cost me about £700!

Defcon5

6,470 posts

221 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Will a crap winter tyre be better than a good summer tyre in winter?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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I have used [-]maragolds[/] maragonis last 2 years and they were fine for a budget tyre

Defcon5 said:
Will a crap winter tyre be better than a good summer tyre in winter?
Driving gods don't need winter tyres they use slick tyrs all year round

Codswallop

5,258 posts

224 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Defcon5 said:
Will a crap winter tyre be better than a good summer tyre in winter?
One would hope it would be, but I guess that entierly depends how well made/ tested that particulat brand of budget tyre was made. Some budget things work fine, some don't.

kambites

71,483 posts

251 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Defcon5 said:
Will a crap winter tyre be better than a good summer tyre in winter?
I'd guess that the crap winter tyre will be better on snow/ice but the good summer tyre will be better on clear roads. I don't know, though.

JM

3,170 posts

236 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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I'd sooner spend the extra and get the Khumo or Hankook tyres, at least they have been tetsed and rated.

I have a set of Hankooks on my van and they are very good and still working in the summer.



JM

3,170 posts

236 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Defcon5 said:
Will a crap winter tyre be better than a good summer tyre in winter?
I suppose it depends on, what you mean by crap and good, and what you need from a winter tyre.

A good 'summer' tyre would work best in dry warm conditions, so might not work good in wet cool conditions.
A bad 'winter' tyre might not work best on ice and deep snow, but be ok in light slush and cool, damp conditions.


Jayho

2,413 posts

200 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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JM said:
I'd sooner spend the extra and get the Khumo or Hankook tyres, at least they have been tetsed and rated.

I have a set of Hankooks on my van and they are very good and still working in the summer.
I actually find Hankook have been making quite good tyres lately, probably not as good as your top of the range of the top brands, but by no means any worse than the top brands slightly more affordable tyres.

frankthetank2

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629 posts

214 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Defcon5 said:
Will a crap winter tyre be better than a good summer tyre in winter?
I think i'll purchase these as a set of these on the principle that even a budget winter tyre (at £200 for the set of 4) will be better than the excellent (but only in the summer) Goodyear eagle F1's I have currently fitted.

The next step up is £305 for a set of winter Kumos, Im not sure they are £105 better

grayr

867 posts

189 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Alot of it has to do with temperature, below or above 7 degrees, i think.

Winter tyres will work better as the rubber will be more pliable at the lower temps no matter if its dry/wet/slush/snow/ice.

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

271 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Budget winters is a tricky one.

Winter tyres rely heavily on compound technology to maintain pliancy in the colder temperatures. This is very expensive in terms of research and materials so don't expect to find much of a show in the budget arena.

The tread pattern is easy to devise, but that's only part of what keeps you on the road in these conditions.

Defcon5

6,470 posts

221 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Those snow sock things seemed to get a lot of praise last year, i think they were about £50

Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

271 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Defcon5 said:
Those snow sock things seemed to get a lot of praise last year, i think they were about £50
They're only good if you drive exclusively on snow. Hit a dry spot of road and you start tearing them up. Quickly.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

217 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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If you fit a winter tyre it's fair to say it will spend a good amount of time not being driven on snow and ice. Therefore it's general performance on the road will be an issue. A cheaper tyre summer or winter won't likely perform as well in braking, handling, noise levels etc etc.

If you're fitting winter tyres then you're interested in getting the best safety and performance from your car so why compromise with cheap rubbish?

Personally I use Michelin Alpin Sport or Bridgestone Blizzaks and both work well in snow/ice as well as the conditions you tend to find for the other 80% of the winter season.

frankthetank2

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629 posts

214 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Motorrad said:
If you fit a winter tyre it's fair to say it will spend a good amount of time not being driven on snow and ice. Therefore it's general performance on the road will be an issue. A cheaper tyre summer or winter won't likely perform as well in braking, handling, noise levels etc etc.

If you're fitting winter tyres then you're interested in getting the best safety and performance from your car so why compromise with cheap rubbish?

Personally I use Michelin Alpin Sport or Bridgestone Blizzaks and both work well in snow/ice as well as the conditions you tend to find for the other 80% of the winter season.
Ideally obviously I would be investing in the Premium Michelin winter tyre or equivalent, however don't have the spare £500+ knocking around for a set of 4 Michelin's. So i figure some winter tyres are better than none...

frankthetank2

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629 posts

214 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Defcon5 said:
Those snow sock things seemed to get a lot of praise last year, i think they were about £50
I looked into them, they don't advise traveling more than 50kph on them (30mph), which sounds like a pain, would only be good in new snow, and to get you out of trouble i guess.

r-kid

850 posts

217 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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frankthetank2 said:
Defcon5 said:
Those snow sock things seemed to get a lot of praise last year, i think they were about £50
I looked into them, they don't advise traveling more than 50kph on them (30mph), which sounds like a pain, would only be good in new snow, and to get you out of trouble i guess.
yes I've had a set for 2 years now and it's more like 10-15mph rather than 30. As you stated they are only good to get you to and from the main gritted routes, once back on tarmac you need to remove them.

oldcynic

2,166 posts

191 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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frankthetank2 said:
I looked into them, they don't advise traveling more than 50kph on them (30mph), which sounds like a pain, would only be good in new snow, and to get you out of trouble i guess.
And they're excellent for getting you out of trouble. I managed to talk my very nervous wife through fitting them in about 5 minutes a couple of winters back. I could feel the smugness coming through her mobile as she politely declined an offer of help from a friendly 4x4 driver (who had first watched her fit the things before offering to help?!). She then effortlessly headed off up an icy hill on fresh snow - the kind of surface where you wouldn't want to drive at more than about 10mph anyway.

marcosgt

11,498 posts

206 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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I wouldn't buy really cheap winter tyres.

My wife has some on her C4 (when they wear out, we'll get rid of them) - They're nasty in the wet and were pretty much useless in the snow...

earlier said:
The next step up is £305 for a set of winter Kumos, Im not sure they are £105 better
Let's hope we don't see you back rueing that small saving...

M.