Subaru Forester Turbo.
Subaru Forester Turbo.
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5paul5

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664 posts

194 months

Monday 15th August 2011
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Off to look at one of these tomorrow, never had one before but owned several imprezas and have one now as a trackday car. From what i have read they use a detuned impreza engine, any info on what to look for would be appreciated. Its a 2001 model with 113k. Thanks

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Same kind of things you would look out for on an Impreza. Same engine, Same floorpan. Manual transmission is pretty similar but you get selectable hi and low 4WD which the Impreza doesn't have.

You don't often see a rusty one and i've never heard of corrosion issues. I suppose it's the usual stuff you look out for and it helps if there's some or a full service history.

Just see what it drives like and listen out for unusual engine or drivetrain noises like gearbox or diff whine, wheel bearing whine, engine rattles, suspension knocks, and make sure you start it from cold and look and listen for smoke, piston slap, etc.., electrics all working. blah blah blah....

You've bought a few scoobs so you should be fine.

5paul5

Original Poster:

664 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Thanks, also read that they are prone to headgasket faliure which seems strange as if its a detuned impreza engine it should be under less stress i would have thought. Any way off to have a look now .

cheddar

4,637 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Which model? Which year? STI or not?
All these can give engine problems from 100k miles on.
I'd buy a lower miles example if possible.

markCSC

2,987 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Hi Paul

As said they are basically a detuned Impreza. The cams and turbo are different so you only get a weedy 177bhp. Remap can take it up to 200bhp (ish) TD04 turbo can push it to 260BHP+

The gearbox on the turbo doesn't have the hi/low range (only the N/A does).

The normal checks apply but if you know Imprezas you'll be fine.

Headgasket failure is as common as it is on Imprezas (i.e not very). The only model that did suffer badly from head gasket failure was the US spec N/A 2.5 engine.

Lots of Forester specific info on the European section of the Forester Board http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f75/

Mark

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I thought the Turbo's had Hi/Low. Sorry, my bad.

5paul5

Original Poster:

664 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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cheddar said:
Which model? Which year? STI or not?
All these can give engine problems from 100k miles on.
I'd buy a lower miles example if possible.
As stated in my first post, turbo 2001 model not an sti though. Just been for a test drive and it does go well, it has the winter pack with heated seats etc, dealer wont budge much on price, its on 113k and due a cambelt change, comes with 3 months warranty though, price is £1800

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Has the dealer agreed to, or is going to do a full service and Cambelt change as part of the deal. If the dealer say's you've got to pay for it walk away. A main dealer will charge you £450-£550 thereabouts to do a big service, although at an independent subaru specialist it will cost about £300-£350.

It's been a while since i paid out main dealer or specialist prices because i do it all myself. I could be wrong, might be cheaper.

markCSC

2,987 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Will the dealer do the cambelt before sale? If not try to use that as a bargaining chip. Just did my cambelt and tensioners £180 parts, £160 labour (subaru dealer wanted £1200).

5paul5

Original Poster:

664 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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No the dealer will not do the cambelt, they have fitted a new clutch and rad though and will only drop the forecourt price £95 and thats for cash. Car is really clean and drives well, guess i should walk away but there dont seem to be many turbos about for my budget of around 2k.

markCSC

2,987 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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This is the kit

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts_info.asp?id=...

I'd ring around a few garages to get a price. It isn't hard to do, any good garage should be able to do it.

5paul5

Original Poster:

664 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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markCSC said:
This is the kit

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts_info.asp?id=...

I'd ring around a few garages to get a price. It isn't hard to do, any good garage should be able to do it.
Cheers if i get the car thats the first thing on the list.

rovermorris999

5,312 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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I've had a 2003 Forester turbo for a couple of years now. Just about all the car you'll ever need for day to day use. It was brilliant in the snow and ice we've had for the last three winters. Fitting winter tyres this year too. I doubt you'll regret buying one.

5paul5

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664 posts

194 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Just bought it, really pleased with it, suprisingly nippy and has cruise, heated seats and a massive electric sunroof, going to give it a good check over tomorrow smile

MikeyLCR

501 posts

204 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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rovermorris999 said:
I've had a 2003 Forester turbo for a couple of years now. Just about all the car you'll ever need for day to day use. It was brilliant in the snow and ice we've had for the last three winters. Fitting winter tyres this year too. I doubt you'll regret buying one.
yes I've had an 05 Sti for just over a year and fitted Wintrac Xtremes last year, was unstoppable up in the welsh hills in the bad weather!

rovermorris999

5,312 posts

212 months

Friday 26th August 2011
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Same tyres I'm fitting. Good to know they work.

NailedOn

3,118 posts

258 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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A query re. winter tyres: I have an Impreza 1.5R. The front tyres need replacing but the rears are fine. I live in the dales and we've had serious snow for the last two winters.
Is it advisable to fit winter or mud & snow tyres to the front if I leave the rears alone?

If not, what do you recommend?

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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I'm not up on the N/A cars. Is the 1.5ltr a 4x4?

If so you can run different tyres front to back, but they should ideally be the same tyres on same axle and ideally all have similar wear so they are roughly the same circumference.

If you have two old tyres on the back with just 3mm or 4mm and brand new fronts with 8mm or 9mm that could put your center diff under stress because the tyres on both ends are rotating at different speeds, which means both front and rear diffs are out of sync and that may damage the center diff.

It's always a good idea to rotate your tyres front to back once every month or two, depending on your monthly mileage. I used to do mine on the scoob every month, although i do the tyres on the Jag (RWD) every 7,500 miles.

NailedOn

3,118 posts

258 months

Saturday 27th August 2011
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ScoobieWRX said:
I'm not up on the N/A cars. Is the 1.5ltr a 4x4?

If so you can run different tyres front to back, but they should ideally be the same tyres on same axle and ideally all have similar wear so they are roughly the same circumference.

If you have two old tyres on the back with just 3mm or 4mm and brand new fronts with 8mm or 9mm that could put your center diff under stress because the tyres on both ends are rotating at different speeds, which means both front and rear diffs are out of sync and that may damage the center diff.

It's always a good idea to rotate your tyres front to back once every month or two, depending on your monthly mileage. I used to do mine on the scoob every month, although i do the tyres on the Jag (RWD) every 7,500 miles.
Thanks. Very helpful.
The 1.5 is a 4x4 with a dual ratio box. As the rears are new I'll go for something similar on the front to ensure even grip all round.

jr502

487 posts

197 months

Sunday 28th August 2011
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ScoobieWRX said:
I'm not up on the N/A cars. Is the 1.5ltr a 4x4?

If so you can run different tyres front to back, but they should ideally be the same tyres on same axle and ideally all have similar wear so they are roughly the same circumference.

If you have two old tyres on the back with just 3mm or 4mm and brand new fronts with 8mm or 9mm that could put your center diff under stress because the tyres on both ends are rotating at different speeds, which means both front and rear diffs are out of sync and that may damage the center diff.

It's always a good idea to rotate your tyres front to back once every month or two, depending on your monthly mileage. I used to do mine on the scoob every month, although i do the tyres on the Jag (RWD) every 7,500 miles.
Is this actually true? I've heard people state this but never seen any evidence. Surely if it was that sensitive we could only ever drive in a straight line. I could understand if it was inches different, but 4mm?