Oldest Bataan Death March Survivor Dies - Wow
Oldest Bataan Death March Survivor Dies - Wow
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Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Take a moment and read about this fellow; talk about overcoming the odds!

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theadvocate/obitu...

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I can think of a few people who need to read that article.

M001

1,762 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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What a legend. RIP

I'll have to keep a look out for his book, i've not read up much on the war in the far east.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Wow, what a life!.
A true Legend, RIP Doc.

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.... and a doctor told him to enjoy the next few years because he had been so decimated he would be dead by 50
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But the former dentist made it to 105, embodying the power of a positive spirit in the face of inordinate odds
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Born in 1905 in North Platte, Neb., Brown was the godson of Wild West folk hero "Buffalo Bill" Cody, who often let the boy sit on his lap and tug his beard
article said:
and a doctor told him to enjoy the next few years because he had been so decimated he would be dead by 50. But Brown soldiered on, moving to California, attending college again and renting out properties to the era's biggest Hollywood stars, including Joan Fontaine and Olivia de Havilland. He became friends with John Wayne and Roy Rogers

Hooli

32,278 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Very impressive guy.

AshVX220

5,965 posts

220 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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bow

My Grandad was a Japanese PoW as well, he could never talk about it, I hate to think what he must have gone through.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Thats a very impressive man! Just think of all the changes he has seen in his lifetime.

The war in the east seems to be largely forgotten in the UK.

The usual timeline of WW2 seems to be

Invasion of Poland > French surrender > Dunkirk > Battle of Britain > bombing raids on Germany > D-Day > VE day.

Yet there was so so much more.

I would like to think myself as well read on the subject of WW2 but I keep learning new things about it every time I read up on it and still being suprised by what I find out.


Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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There does seem to be yet a well of undiscovered stories under the umbrella of the war.

Andrew[MG]

3,360 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Mr Dave said:
Thats a very impressive man! Just think of all the changes he has seen in his lifetime.

The war in the east seems to be largely forgotten in the UK.

The usual timeline of WW2 seems to be

Invasion of Poland > French surrender > Dunkirk > Battle of Britain > bombing raids on Germany > D-Day > VE day.

Yet there was so so much more.

I would like to think myself as well read on the subject of WW2 but I keep learning new things about it every time I read up on it and still being suprised by what I find out.
I was talking to some Russians recently and it's really interesting to hear their perspective on things.

Gogoplata

1,272 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Andrew[MG] said:
I was talking to some Russians recently and it's really interesting to hear their perspective on things.
Would you care to share please?

Eric Mc

125,791 posts

295 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Jimbeaus does seem to be on a World War 2 Veterans' Death Watch at the moment smile

Bob Fossil

954 posts

269 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Wow.

Truly humbling, and a reminder to us all that we should embrace every second of our lives and freedom.

Thank you for posting.

RIP, Doc.

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaus does seem to be on a World War 2 Veterans' Death Watch at the moment smile
smile Limited opportunity to honor them. smile

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 16th August 14:02

Eric Mc

125,791 posts

295 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaus does seem to be on a World War 2 Veterans' Death Watch at the moment smile
smile Limited opportunity to honor them. smile

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 16th August 14:02
I think we are quite good at this over here. The obituaries in the quality newspapers tend to cover people like this and the aviation magazine "Flypast" runs a monthly list of aviation veterans who have passed on.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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what a life. shame the author wrote such a pi55 poor obituary.

GTiR Al

967 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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It puts your own trials and tribulations into perspective when you read about what these men had to go through....

RIP

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaus does seem to be on a World War 2 Veterans' Death Watch at the moment smile
smile Limited opportunity to honor them. smile

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 16th August 14:02
I think we are quite good at this over here. The obituaries in the quality newspapers tend to cover people like this and the aviation magazine "Flypast" runs a monthly list of aviation veterans who have passed on.
Excellent.

Derek Smith

49,965 posts

278 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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My father-in-law was a prisoner of war in the far east. He was captured by the Japanese but had Korean guards.

He went out in 1941 as part of a university air squadron, maintaining Defiants. They took up residence in Malaya and were told to fly out immediately. The guns were taken out of the Defiants and all aircraft took off with as many of the ground crew as possible. My f-i-l lost out in the lottery he thought. None of the others in the squadron survived.

He was caputred and put to work on a road.

He was found in 1944 but was not allowed home until 45 (all dates approx) because first of all he had no idea who he was and secondly the doctor said that a sea voyage would kill him.

His legs were a mass of scars from jungle sores and he contracted malaria and other diseases. After months of rehabilittion he escaped the hospital and secured a berth on board a ship. When he got home he was still 'skin and bone.'

He went through a period when he would talk about the war. I was sitting watching TV with him when there was something on about the Koreans and he told me some of his experiences. When marking to the road to work the guards whould often kill one of the prisoners for no apparent reason, just for bayonet practice he reckoned.

The thing that suprised him was just how many survived the camp despite the ill-treatment, the lack of medical facilities, the diseases, against which most had no immunity, and the lack of food. If you fell ill you were killed.

He died of cancer at the age of 70-odd and when in hospital under the drugs he believed himself to be back at the camp. My m-i-l was spooked out by the fact that he began to look like he was when he returned.

He was ambivalent towards the Japanese, although my wife never let my buy a Japanese car, but his hatred of the Koreans came back towards the last few years of his life. He became less than predictable. Despite getting on with him in the first few years of courting and marriage later our relationship became strained and it was down to his memories of the war.

Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

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Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Derek Smith said:
My father-in-law was a prisoner of war in the far east. He was captured by the Japanese but had Korean guards.

He went out in 1941 as part of a university air squadron, maintaining Defiants. They took up residence in Malaya and were told to fly out immediately. The guns were taken out of the Defiants and all aircraft took off with as many of the ground crew as possible. My f-i-l lost out in the lottery he thought. None of the others in the squadron survived.

He was caputred and put to work on a road.

He was found in 1944 but was not allowed home until 45 (all dates approx) because first of all he had no idea who he was and secondly the doctor said that a sea voyage would kill him.

His legs were a mass of scars from jungle sores and he contracted malaria and other diseases. After months of rehabilittion he escaped the hospital and secured a berth on board a ship. When he got home he was still 'skin and bone.'

He went through a period when he would talk about the war. I was sitting watching TV with him when there was something on about the Koreans and he told me some of his experiences. When marking to the road to work the guards whould often kill one of the prisoners for no apparent reason, just for bayonet practice he reckoned.

The thing that suprised him was just how many survived the camp despite the ill-treatment, the lack of medical facilities, the diseases, against which most had no immunity, and the lack of food. If you fell ill you were killed.

He died of cancer at the age of 70-odd and when in hospital under the drugs he believed himself to be back at the camp. My m-i-l was spooked out by the fact that he began to look like he was when he returned.

He was ambivalent towards the Japanese, although my wife never let my buy a Japanese car, but his hatred of the Koreans came back towards the last few years of his life. He became less than predictable. Despite getting on with him in the first few years of courting and marriage later our relationship became strained and it was down to his memories of the war.
That is all very sad. frown

0a

24,159 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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What an incredible tale. This struck me:

"By the time the war ended in 1945, the 40-year-old Brown was nearly blind, had weathered a broken back and neck and suffered through more than a dozen diseases including malaria, dysentery and dengue fever."