En-Suite, Night time lighting
En-Suite, Night time lighting
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PGM

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2,168 posts

280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Hi

Putting in a new en-suite which has halogen downlights.

Trouble is, being a man approaching 40 I need to get up and go for a pee during the night at the weekend!

If I turn on 6 halogens in the night I will be blinded and have parts removed by my wife for waking her. If I don't use lights then I might make a mess. Sitting down is not a considerable option.

My thoughts are to install a PIR with a low output LED above the toilet to overcome this problem.

I cannot seem to find anything that is reasonably neat and un-noticable as an installation, anyone got ideas or donet this in the past?

Thanks
Paul

NDA

25,794 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Could you fit a dimmer switch for your halogens? Or a double switch where one switch operates a single halogen?

PGM

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280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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NDA said:
Could you fit a dimmer switch for your halogens? Or a double switch where one switch operates a single halogen?
Could do a dimmer I suppose although they do tend to buzz a bit in my experience.

Double switch good idea but unfortunately I can't run another cable to the switch any more as boarded out.

NDA

25,794 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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I have dimmers on halogens and they don't noticeably buzz - hunt around for a decent one maybe and check.

I reckon it's your answer. Even if it did buzz it's not going to wake up your beloved - no more than your personal Niagra Falls! smile

PGM

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280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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NDA said:
I have dimmers on halogens and they don't noticeably buzz - hunt around for a decent one maybe and check.

I reckon it's your answer. Even if it did buzz it's not going to wake up your beloved - no more than your personal Niagra Falls! smile
rofl true enough

BertB

1,106 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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If you can't run any more cables the dimmer may be the only sensible option, but I think they only work with certain transformers and up to a certain wattage.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLPCD51.html


The other option paint the toilet! http://www.glowtec.co.uk/silly

Slinky

15,704 posts

280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Just sit down...

wink

PGM

Original Poster:

2,168 posts

280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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BertB said:
If you can't run any more cables the dimmer may be the only sensible option, but I think they only work with certain transformers and up to a certain wattage.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLPCD51.html


The other option paint the toilet! http://www.glowtec.co.uk/silly
I would need to drink some of it aswell though biggrin

fulham911club

2,046 posts

273 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Dimmer switch and get your prostate checked

PGM

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Tuesday 16th August 2011
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fulham911club said:
Dimmer switch and get your prostate checked
Dimmer switch it is!

No need to check prostate, weekend problem only biggrin

Simpo Two

93,061 posts

296 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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One warning - if the light came on when you opened the door, stop peeing immediately. You are peeing in the fridge.

NDA

25,794 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Many dimmers will run 400 Watts without a problem - you have six halogens which would be 300 Watt maximum.

Double check with an electrician (I'm not one!). My house has the most bizarre mix of downlights - from huge 75W ones to 12 Volt types, the 12 Volt types were, if memory serves, more awkward to dim.

This type of thing I would have thought:

http://www.theinternetelectricalstore.com/hds1s-va...

200bhp

5,804 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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What kind of light switch do you have there at the moment? Is it on the wall or a pull-cord?


PGM

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280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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On wall in bedroom powering 6 x 50w 240v halogens IP68.

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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BertB said:
If you can't run any more cables the dimmer may be the only sensible option, but I think they only work with certain transformers and up to a certain wattage.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TLPCD51.html


The other option paint the toilet! http://www.glowtec.co.uk/silly
Also, you CAN NOT run an extractor fan off the lighting circuit if you put a dimmer in place! smile


200bhp

5,804 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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There are two types of dimmer switch - Trailing edge and leading edge.

Leading edge is the most common and also the one most likely to buzz. Trailing edge is slightly more expensive but will run silently.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/varilight-trailing-edge-...

Will do the job perfectly.

Edited by 200bhp on Tuesday 16th August 13:46

200bhp

5,804 posts

250 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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anonymous said:
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UK shaver sockets are not "continuously rated" so shouldnt' be used for anything other than a few minutes at a time (while having a shave, for example!)

PGM

Original Poster:

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280 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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200bhp said:
There are two types of dimmer switch - Trailing edge and leading edge.

Leading edge is the most common and also the one most likely to buzz. Leading edge is slightly more expensive but will run silently.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/varilight-trailing-edge-...

Will do the job perfectly.
I've learnt something new today then!

That will do me nicely, thankyou.

Thanks everyone for the input.

Humpy D

658 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Couldn't you just close the door to the en-suite and then put the light on?

I would also second the person who said "sit down". Nothing worse than standing up, start peeing and realising that someone has fitted an invisible watering can rose to your old boy!!

PGM

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Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Humpy D said:
Couldn't you just close the door to the en-suite and then put the light on?

I would also second the person who said "sit down". Nothing worse than standing up, start peeing and realising that someone has fitted an invisible watering can rose to your old boy!!
rofl

Switch located outside door.