Cat D etc
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markreilly

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795 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Can someone please explain the different insurance catagory write offs please

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Insurance Loss Categories - Quick reference
  • Category A - Must be crushed. All of it.
  • Category B - Vehicle may not be returned to road but parts may be sold.
  • Category C - Repairable. Significant damage. Cost of the repair is more than book value of vehicle at dealer rates.
  • Category D - Repairable. Probably non-structural damage. May have been economic to repair, but insurer doesn't want to.
  • Category X - Repairable. Minor Damage

Insurance Loss Categories - In detail
Category AThe vehicle may not be resold it must be crushed. Severely damaged, total burnout or flood damage with no serviceable parts, or already a stripped out shell. DVLA will require a Notification of Destruction.
Category B The vehicle may not be resold. It will have been damaged beyond economical repair, usually with major structural damage. The DVLA will require Notification of Destruction but parts can be removed and sold on.
Category C Repairable salvage. Usually applies to vehicles with significant damage and where the cost of repairs exceeds the book value. It can be sold for repair but must have VIC(Vehicle Identity Check) inspection before returning to the road. V5 documents are returned to DVLA and recorded as category C vehicles. You can re-apply for registration on the original identity once the VIC inspection has been done. VIC inspection and re-registration removes the Category C classification, but evidence it was at one time Category C remains on the vehicle's record at the DVLA and so will appear on a vehicle data check.
What is a Vehicle Identity Check and how does it work?(taken from the VOSA's site) The Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) has been introduced to help reduce car crime. It is intended to deter criminals from disguising stolen cars with the identity of written off ones. When an insurance company ‘writes off’ a car, (Category A, B or C) they notify DVLA and a VIC marker is placed on the DVLA record. DVLA will not issue a Registration Certificate (V5C) or a Vehicle Licence Reminder (V11) to a car with a VIC marker against it. In order to remove the VIC marker the car needs to be inspected by VOSA to confirm its identity. When the car passes the VIC, the marker is removed. The VIC will be carried out by VOSA. It will involve comparing the car against information held by DVLA, such as the vehicle identification number, make, model, colour and engine number. The VIC will also compare the record of previous accident damage with evidence of damage repair as well as checking other components to confirm the age and identity of the car.
Will the VIC confirm that the vehicle is roadworthy? No. The VIC is designed to confirm the identity of the car and does not assess the quality of the repair. You should seek independent expert opinion as to whether the car is roadworthy. If whilst carrying out the check the inspector notices a serious defect which would make the car dangerous to drive, then they will issue a notice which prohibits the car being used. Once it has been made roadworthy the prohibition can be removed.
Note: I understand motorbikes falling into this category do not have to undergo a VIC inspection so will warrant close investigation and clarification of identity.
Category D Repairable salvage. Minimal damage, probably not structural, but insurer does not want to repair, even though it might be economic to do so. Often stolen and recovered after claim has been paid. Or it maybe a vehicle where parts are difficult to obtain so a quick repair is unlikely. Does not need VIC inspection to return to road. Notification will appear in your vehicle history check
Category X has been the subject of a claim but minor or very lightly damaged and required minimal repair work. It would not be recorded with the DVLA so would not appear in any Vehicle Data Check
not recorded - Not an official category, it simply means that there has not been an insurance claim, possibly only had third party insurance and damaged the vehicle themselves or don't know who caused the damaged so can not make a claim or may not even been insured, either way the DVLA will not know in these cases so will not be recorded and will not show on any Vehicle History Check
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markreilly

Original Poster:

795 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Briliant thanks

Zombie

1,613 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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If a HPI check shows a car is CAT D but there is nothing on the V5 to indicate this and the owner, having not done a HPI check, is unaware of the vehicle's history, how could they be expected to know this?

I ask because on a radio show I was listening to recently they were saying that in the event of an accident, some insurance companies will refuse to pay out on both their client's car and anything they have hit. It effectively invalidates your insurance.

Is this correct? Does anyone know?

Gazzab

21,633 posts

311 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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I have no idea about v5 etc but the principle of insurance is honesty. So i suspect an ins co is on thin ice if one could prove you had no way of knowing it was listed and had not therefore knowingly misled.

Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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There will never be anything marked on the V5 it is purely up to you as the buyer to find out. There is no requirement to inform your ins company as you rightly may not know. But they can adjust the ampount they pay you out in the event of a claim but it is not grounds to refuse a payout.

Walford

2,259 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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My TVR was bought as cat D
needed VIC, vosa said because of the value, over 10k
i could have gone out and stole one then rung it

gordonsalive

446 posts

216 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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Mine was catD also, had an Autolign inspection carried out on it following repair, this got it removed from catD and now signalled as condition inspected, i.e.its as good as new. Also means that I have full valuation for insurance purposes.

Djdan

573 posts

177 months

Friday 3rd February 2012
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I would always get it properly checked first, when i crashed my rx8 it knackered the front end of the car and bent and creased the front subframe but they then wrote it off as cat D, hardly cosmetic if one of the wheels wont sit on the ground!