X-Type 2.0d / 2.2d - talk to me
X-Type 2.0d / 2.2d - talk to me
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emicen

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9,192 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Looking at 2.0 and 2.2 diesel X-Types at the moment, are there any good owner sites out there? (I ask here as there tends to be a balance of opinion, I’m not interested in a fanboi site that glazes over all the niggles!) Is there a significant difference in fuel economy from the 2 different power plants? I’m doing ~600 miles a week at the moment and for the foreseeable future and since its all out my own pocket, 50mpg on a slow 50-60mph motorway run is essential.
 
Have heard of clutches being iffy on the 2.2d units, are there any other things to be wary of? Is it the same 2.2 Ford unit as found in the ST TDCi Mondeo for example, and if so does it share the injector problems? What about the tensioner whine and EGR valves clogging?
 
I’m aware there are some parts carried over running gear wise from the Mondeo parts bin, mainly rear suspension (and iirc the brake system shares some components), what are consumable & servicing prices like? I would assume they’re somewhere in between Ford and BMW/Audi bits.
 
At the moment I believe spec I’d be after would be a Sport estate with cruise if possible, although I’m noticing cruise is a bit rare.

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

192 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Have a look at www.jaguarforum.co.uk
They have an active X-Type section, and you should be able to find info regarding spec levels.
I'm not sure if CC is standard on the sport. It's definately on the SE and Sport Premium. You tend to find with the X-Type that spec levels improved over time. 55 reg cars and newer tend to be better specced than 05 and older, and again further spec increases were made at 07.

I drive a 2.0D Estate and it will give 50mpg at 70mph. I imagine at 50-60mph you may see 55mpg but I can't bring myself to drive that slowly!

atlex

110 posts

185 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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good for motorways, cheap mechanical spares (mondeo!), can be cheaper than the mondeo equivalent and yet more pleasant to sit in. Plenty of space for bodies in the boot. The estate is a much more practical thing though.

emicen

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9,192 posts

244 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Cheers guys. 320Cd is giving me 50-53 at the moment, the M8 makes 50-60mph a no option requirement, even at 6:30am.

I'm aiming around the 5k mark, don't want moon miles on it (already), but would like to cash out a bit from the sale of the BMW and get more boot space to, erm, boot!

wembleymod

8 posts

179 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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emicen forget the 2 litre they have a number of drawbacks find a 2.2 you may then get 50mpg or so they are great cars but get a specialist to check it whats your budget??

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

192 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Not aware of any drawbacks with the 2.0D over the 2.2D. 2.2D has a longer top gear which may be useful if you do a lot of motorway driving, but ultimately the 2.0D is still slightly more economical.

Both have been known to suffer the usual TDCi injector issues, and clogged EGR valves are common, but fixable.

£5K should get you a 80k mile 05 maybe 06 plate.

edward1

839 posts

292 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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I was considering looking at an estate variant of the X-type as a replacement for my 156 JTD as I am after a larger load area. After a bit of digging and talking to a few colleagues here who have mondeo and an X-type diesels, I have decided to steer clear of any of the PSA group derived engines due to potential fuel pump, injector issues. I was quite dissapointed that the 2.2 is still from the same stable as I consider the X-type a good looking motor with nice interior. The guy at work with the x-type is always jealous of how refined my 156 is in comparison, the ford unit is somewhat agricultural.

I also came accross these comments on the PSA derived ford engines.
http://www.dieselbob.co.uk/goodbad.aspx

I have now decided to stick to vehicles with the alfa derived unit as the biggest problem there seems to be the egr which is DIY fixable.

As with anything though you may get a good one. It does seem that many of the modern diesel engines have some potential problem that is normally expensive to fix, a bit of a mine field.

lowdrag

13,172 posts

239 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Looking at the above, it gives me another reason to hang on to the 2000 Merc with the low pressure injection system. It just goes on and on with never a problem, unlike the later common rail ones it seems.