Tax disc abolition e petition

[redstu]

Tax discs are on outdated system lets try to get rid of them.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2236

[edo]

Over-complicated.

Remove it completely - add a penny to fuel if need be. We have 2 methods of taxing the motorist. Loads of people dont buy tax, you HAVE to run a car on fuel, so just stick to the one system of fuel duty.

I heard (must be true) that the cost of administering and enforcing the car tax system was pretty much as much as it generates...

[Celt]

edo said:

Over-complicated.

Remove it completely - add a penny to fuel if need be. We have 2 methods of taxing the motorist. Loads of people dont buy tax, you HAVE to run a car on fuel, so just stick to the one system of fuel duty.

I heard (must be true) that the cost of administering and enforcing the car tax system was pretty much as much as it generates...

Makes sense to me. Can't see it happening. Road Tax is getting ridiculous for high end cars.

[Vipers]

Sorted, what difference will make I am not sure.................. apart from putting someone out of a job.

[Maximum bobs]

It was already put on fuel in the 80s.

[PoleDriver]

Far better system, won't be open to abuse and it will be fairer, the more fuel you use, the more tax you pay! Now that MOT and insurance are held on a database it is easy to check if a car is running legally or not!

[redstu]

There is another petition to put the tax on fuel , so sign that one as well.
The disc is the easiest to do away with as it requires very little to be done, just a receipt issued and the sytem can continue as it is. Although a total change would be far better.

[300bhp/ton]

edo said:

Over-complicated.

Remove it completely - add a penny to fuel if need be. We have 2 methods of taxing the motorist. Loads of people dont buy tax, you HAVE to run a car on fuel, so just stick to the one system of fuel duty.

I heard (must be true) that the cost of administering and enforcing the car tax system was pretty much as much as it generates...

That sounds an awful lot like common sense and logical thought. Sadly I doubt it'll catch on where it matters.

[PoleDriver]

redstu said:

There is another petition to put the tax on fuel , so sign that one as well.
The disc is the easiest to do away with as it requires very little to be done, just a receipt issued and the sytem can continue as it is. Although a total change would be far better.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/4637

[_Leg_]

Any change will cost us more, it always does. They cant resist.

[Mr Whippy]

This is the most sensible one...

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petit...


I've signed it now.

I think it'll be fair, and it ties in well with the CO2 taxation, if you buy into that. Low emissions, low cost to you, high emissions, high cost.

Can also be adjusted easily if required. Reduces a HUGE amount of cost to administer.


UK government wanting to make things fairer and cheaper for all, this is an easy way to do it!

Dave

[redstu]

Mr Whippy said:

This is the most sensible one...

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petit...


I've signed it now.

I think it'll be fair, and it ties in well with the CO2 taxation, if you buy into that. Low emissions, low cost to you, high emissions, high cost.

Can also be adjusted easily if required. Reduces a HUGE amount of cost to administer.


UK government wanting to make things fairer and cheaper for all, this is an easy way to do it!

Dave

I signed that one as well , makes sense for all the right reasons. However I wrote to the chancellor about 15 years ago suggesting that, I recieved the reply that it would be unfair to people who lived in the countryside as they had to travel further !

[McSam]

It'd be nice if the government would realise that they already do tax higher-emission cars more highly because there is an exactly direct relationship between the amount of fuel burnt per mile and the carbon dioxide emitted per mile. Which is, oddly enough, because the carbon dioxide is a result of burning the fuel.. Who knew?

The idiocy of this "taxing by CO2" nonsense when fuel is already ruinous and, for most people, many many times more important an outlay than road tax, is comprehensive. About time it buggered off.

I most very definitely vote for the new one, not the OP's, because charging it monthly or any other way solves very little. Get rid. Completely. And they hardly need to put it on fuel either.

[Mr Whippy]

redstu said:

Mr Whippy said:

This is the most sensible one...

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petit...


I've signed it now.

I think it'll be fair, and it ties in well with the CO2 taxation, if you buy into that. Low emissions, low cost to you, high emissions, high cost.

Can also be adjusted easily if required. Reduces a HUGE amount of cost to administer.


UK government wanting to make things fairer and cheaper for all, this is an easy way to do it!

Dave

I signed that one as well , makes sense for all the right reasons. However I wrote to the chancellor about 15 years ago suggesting that, I recieved the reply that it would be unfair to people who lived in the countryside as they had to travel further!

That is a rather lame response in my view.

They already suffer massively due to the tax on fuel meaning they have to travel further to start with.

Nice to see the reply from someone who should know better, missing the point.

Dave

[NHK244V]

edo said:

Over-complicated.

Remove it completely - add a penny to fuel if need be. We have 2 methods of taxing the motorist. Loads of people dont buy tax, you HAVE to run a car on fuel, so just stick to the one system of fuel duty.

I heard (must be true) that the cost of administering and enforcing the car tax system was pretty much as much as it generates...

never work, cos then everyone will have 7 cars all parked out on the street

[McSam]

NHK244V said:

never work, cos then everyone will have 7 cars all parked out on the street

Not when they all have to be insured unless declared off the road, they won't.

[johnpeat]

Road Tax and Insurance are - at least partly - stopping people piling-up cars in their drive/garden/any space available.

Road Tax is really a system for saying "YES - I use it"

Insurance is the backup to ensure you don't abuse public parking for car storage...

To quote Hyacinth

"It's the dustbin men I feel sorry for - I mean how do they know what to take away and what to leave"...

[Mr Whippy]

johnpeat said:

Road Tax and Insurance are - at least partly - stopping people piling-up cars in their drive/garden/any space available.

Road Tax is really a system for saying "YES - I use it"

Insurance is the backup to ensure you don't abuse public parking for car storage...

To quote Hyacinth

"It's the dustbin men I feel sorry for - I mean how do they know what to take away and what to leave"...

Yes, just piling up cars with all that extra money they will now have.

Insurance and depreciation, MOT etc, still account for enough cost per year, to stop you accumulating random cars.


Tax is almost irrelevant cost wise for me, the issue is that it's an economic black hole to pay money for something that you need, that costs what is paid into it just to run.
It's just a waste.

Dave

[nottyash]

This will never ever happen in this counnrty as they are making too much money from people driving cars with lots of CO2s...like me.

They charge £1000 to tax some cars in the first year, and £460 a year there after. Thats more than a penny on fuel.
What about zero tax bracket cars the government is pushing, most of the ste pistonheads wouldn't be seen dead in, they would indirectly be taxed using this method

[roachcoach]

It will happen when the majority in in extremely low band/no cost tax ranges I think.

Gotta keep the pennies coming in somehow.