project raise the wing
project raise the wing
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TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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after fitting my 40mm taller wing pylons i have noticed the center section still stays clean so after a bit of thought i came up with these .




thay are made of stainless and lift the wing by another 50mm ,this lifts the wing above the roofline now , hopefully it will give me a bit more rear end grip !!





i also have a set to fit For my mate Shaun on his std mounts to see if we can improve his . although if anyone has a set of taller mounts please let me know . Tux

Silent1

19,762 posts

264 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Have you done any testing to check it's actually beneficial and that if you do increase the downforce that those extensions can take it along with the potential side load?

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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The wind tunnel articles by Mira suggested that the rear wing put leverage on the car and lifted the nose, in effect reducing the front end downforce. Balancing front and rear downforce was seen as far more important than rear end downforce.

By raising the wing further are you not at risk of making the front end lighter?


TuxMan

Original Poster:

9,011 posts

267 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Thanks for input guys , front end is already modified quite alot to improve grip and still have more to do up front , been chasing more rear grip all summer , will see what it like at Silverstone next week !!!

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

269 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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TuxMan said:
...been chasing more rear grip all summer...
At what speed? Have you made any rear camber changes out of interest?

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Rear end grip I'm high speed corners? Or low speed wheelspin?

TuxMan

Original Poster:

9,011 posts

267 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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Yep camber changes all done front and rear , looking for a bit more high speed stability , have found a bit more front grip and I think I know where there is a bit more , so just playing with the wing setup , drag is not going to be an option with new engine next year :-) :-)

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Hi Tux, i suggest you put some wool on the car and video it at 50 70 90 120 mph then do it again with the wing higher.

I also might be able to help you measure the wind pressure with a manometer to get more useful results

5paulmv

1,250 posts

200 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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hi simon my car has been running this mod since feb 06 would sugest strenthening the rear clam up as when it was first done aparently the wing had a tendancy to rip off at speed but for a quid or so on material to make them a realy cheap mod to make good luck with your testing

5paulmv

1,250 posts

200 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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think you can just make out xtensions on rear wing also gurney pic at tatton park last year

TuxMan

Original Poster:

9,011 posts

267 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Thanks Paul , already done some work to make everything stronger , will look at doing a bit more !!!

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Tuxmans gone another 40mm high than your car has as he already has higher wing supports.

The real answer is to keep the wing lower and sort the air flow over the engine bay, way less drag and better airflow to intercooler... But I know from experience that it's a serious amount of work and a he'll of a lot cheaper.

TuxMan

Original Poster:

9,011 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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To be honest i doubt i will need them , i had them made for Shaun as he only has std wing pylons ,hoping with my carbon wing ends and a Tuxman Racing gurney flap it will give him a bit more rear end grip .

sidsideways

417 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Just got my M400 so thought you guys might know Jetstreams tel number? Which is best intercooler upgrade, John Noble or pro alloy?

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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sidsideways said:
Just got my M400 so thought you guys might know Jetstreams tel number? Which is best intercooler upgrade, John Noble or pro alloy?
You can contact them via members profile, look under jetstream or mat7w.

As for intercooler either is an improvement over the standard one. Pro-alloy will give the best results for track use.

Jenx

11,579 posts

271 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Damn those extensions are fugly!

chuntington101

5,733 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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How much effort would it be to get some ally uprights made that are the same style as stock but taller? Would that not be a cleaner look?

TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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The alloy pylons I am running are already 40mm taller than STD !!!! So with my lifters I'm 90mm taller than STD eek

I'm going to paint them black to match my pylons if I decide to keep them , but it's at testing stage at the moment . Tux

Rob_W

1,070 posts

243 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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Stop messing about Simon

TuxMan

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9,011 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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laughlaugh ..... Very good Rob biggrin