FAO camera Steve and other Scammers
FAO camera Steve and other Scammers
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hertsbiker

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6,443 posts

293 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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Why are you here?
Really...
A lot of people here will say you are welcome. This does not apply to me. I have spoken to a lot of senior Essex police, and I find them blinkered and arrogant. And powerless to stop some of the very exhibitionist behaviour on show at Southend evey Saturday night. Actually it was a good night, no police anywhere. Too busy eating donuts and manning scameras on the SAFE roads.
I do not like the police very much, a few rare exceptions that show the ability to reason beyond the narrow confines of the "law". The law that is made of plebs and halfwits who don't know how to drive.
I loath camera operators because they love their job, and all it stands for. Why are you here? do you really have anything to offer this forum? or are you spying?
If truth be told, we hate you, and you stand for. All this crap about "think of the children" is just crap. You only care about the money, this much is proven by now.
And why should I even beleive that you are the real dude in the SCP ? and even the acronym SCP is a lie. YOu are false prophets, saving no one, and costing people a lot of money. DO us a favour and get a PROPER JOB you .

MODERATORS: please leave this intact. This is an enthuisiasts web site, not an public mouth peice for treacherous government tools.

SCPs know NOTHING. SCPs are scum. I HATE all of them, and if you have any balls at all, you'd agree with me.

Who is going to be honest and agree?

BTW: I don't give a damn if I am sin-binned over this. Enough is enough, and I am sick of the traitors that consort with the ENEMY. Face it, it IS them and US.

I feel a few regrets that there are some good guys on here (MC, TonyR, SilverBack), but I have lost it with camera operators, ALL of them. Even the so called rational ones, because I HAVE NEVER MET a nice scamera operator. They have all been self serving, obsessive little Hitlers.

Yeah right, and this is gonna be in the "unlocked" section tomorrow.

Keep it shiney side up folkes, and **** the cameras real good.

C

gh0st

4,693 posts

280 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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I have yet to meet an SCP that isnt narrow minded and arrogant so by that logic yes.

Prove me wrong SCP! We the public pay your wages, show us what you are doing and stop hiding behind total and utter bollocks!

I know your tactics and I know your technology even better so your playground tactics will not work on me

dazren

22,612 posts

283 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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From my dealings with and observations of mobile scamera partnerships, they appear to be staffed by government robots brainwashed in the name of safety to get us out of cars and onto public transport, in the hope of higher public transport usage for political reasons. There is also the side effect of higher public transport usage bringing down average cost and thus reducing the necessary government subsidy.

Social Engineering hidden under the banner of safety.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Monday 7th June 23:21

Buffalo

5,472 posts

276 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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It is the blanket and standard response of "we are doing this to save lives" bollox i hate...

We know you are there for the cash, you know you are there for the cash, and of course so do the government. So lets all get it out in the open. Rethink the scamera policy and move on eh?

Who's the camera operator thats on here now then? I go away for three days and missed something, obviously!

edited cos i noticed a few mistakes in even that short prose!


>> Edited by Buffalo on Monday 7th June 23:28

safetyfirst

169 posts

269 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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dazren, what public transport then?

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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Carl Liebchen - I think his rather facetious comment about Green Code Education and post injury litigation spoke volumes (other thread)

If he intended as humour - does not work. HC applies to all - and if he is so rigid about enforcing the lollipops - then that rigidity should extend across all careless road use - and that includes cyclists of mega muesli munching variety and careless pedestrians and very careless parents who let their very young play by the roadway and then seek their 15 minutes of fame with Aunty Mary - blaming everyone else for their own inept parenting skills!

Road sense and courtesy been hammered into all of us from toddling age. Family discipline was very firm on that!

Said before - if we get run over - family will be merciless and really would inscribe "Here lies J-walking Numpty" on the tombstone.

They have been so brainwashed and now so power crazed - they believe their own spin. Another poster on here confirms that they do indeed scam where I say I have seen them - as well as Shap!

And they do station themselves at fleece spots regardless what he says. Accident should reduce and not stay static or even rise in some cases - if they produce results as claimed. He forgets one thing - lots of medics in this family - who can access all accident data from respective hospitals up and down country. They say "Way of recording all data has changed" and get impression from them that this is to diddle the public,

Popularity? They poll only those they know will give desired result. Not a random spread - so hardly any wonder results are skewed to their preference.

Note - I drew his atention to fact that Wildcats all drive legally and safely. This was immediately taken to be "down to measures he had instigated"

No! This was down to training my Papa paid for and re-inforced each time he drove out with me. It was also re-inforced by IAM and RoSPA, and after the smash - my retrain was with the family's BiBs, along with the other equally and very impressively qualified members of this family!

I think I get overall impression of one arrogant dude here - but am prepared to argue toss with him, tease him and try to tie him in knots if I can! (Mad Doc (posts under other alias there since it started up) has baited him a few times on the Cumbria site - won a few and lost a few )

Basically - he just spouts party line and very little else.

>> Edited by WildCat on Monday 7th June 23:40

dazren

22,612 posts

283 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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safetyfirst said:
dazren, what public transport then?


Dunno where you live mate, but down here we have empty buses outside of rush hour all over the place. When you add in the proposed congestion/additional car usage taxes to be used to set up alternative public transport etc the whole grand design becomes a little more transparent.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Monday 7th June 23:44

JSG

2,238 posts

305 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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Carl, I think you're making a valid opinion mate. I'm not going to bin you or lock the thread.

8Pack

5,182 posts

262 months

Monday 7th June 2004
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dazren said:
From my dealings with and observations of mobile scamera partnerships, they appear to be staffed by government robots brainwashed in the name of safety to get us out of cars and onto public transport, in the hope of higher public transport usage for political reasons. There is also the side effect of higher public transport usage bringing down average cost and thus reducing the necessary government subsidy.

Social Engineering hidden under the banner of safety.

DAZ




Dazren, I really glad that some else see's this too! Added to which are: "less cars - less road maintenance req'd", and when they "Privatise the motorways (Tolls)", result is even LESS expendature for the Government to pay!

v8 westy

940 posts

276 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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social engineering at its worst stage! camera partnerships are the worst example of leftwing self funding taxraising beurocracy!
they are founded on lies and have so far caused so much damage to public confidence in the british police force! they are a complete farce!
welcome the day when real traffic police are reinstalled on motorways and can once again stop numpties and point out dangerous driving errors!
cheapo leftie automatons all of them!
saving pointless jobs and not lives!

CB-Dave

1,002 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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it certainly does take a 'special' sort to man the van surely... I wouldn't be able to sleep easy knowing that in the process of gaining revenue, I'm automatically making myself the target of motorists hate and anger.

not just that but wielding a device that can singularly remove one's liberty and freedom (in the worse case scenario) wouldn't really make me flushed with joy.

it's going to get to a point whereby someone does something illegal about scam vans - it won't be the right thing to do, natch - but it will mark a change in policy - I can see a lot of people tendering resignation from the vans if things turn nasty all of a sudden...

bogush

481 posts

288 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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hertsbiker said:

Face it, it IS them and US.


Not a lot of people seem to know that.

Which is why the motorists are losing.

Have a good long read (right to the end of):

www.guncite.com/journals/okslip.html

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

270 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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dazren said:
There is also the side effect of higher public transport usage bringing down average cost and thus reducing the necessary government subsidy.
Wake up Thatcher-babe! Those fkers are taking more from the public purse than BR ever did without improving the track, the rolling stock or the timeliness of services. What is worse, they have no incentive to do so.

8Pack

5,182 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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v8 westy said:
social engineering at its worst stage! camera partnerships are the worst example of leftwing self funding taxraising beurocracy!
they are founded on lies and have so far caused so much damage to public confidence in the british police force! they are a complete farce!
welcome the day when real traffic police are reinstalled on motorways and can once again stop numpties and point out dangerous driving errors!
cheapo leftie automatons all of them!
saving pointless jobs and not lives!



v8-westy, NICE car incidently! 3/4 of what you say I agree with. But, the die, was cast, many years ago! Remember the phrase: "The Polluter MUST pay" who said THAT! Mrs T. Right! I ask you to forget Party politics, for THAT has NOW GONE. You Vote for either! You get the same! I critisize BOTH sides now, even though MY life experiences take me to the LEFT, but NOT so much as you would think.


Many of these DESCISIONS are now made at a GLOBAL level, If you ask me, "would I vote for Tory B. Liar, I would have to say NO! I think you would be surprised at who I would vote for, BUT, that is between ME and the ballot box! I'm sure you will agree.

But, as I say, I critisize BOTH sides Now, I ask YOU to do the same. Think about it please! are these REALLY left wing polices? (Privatisation of roads Etc)
These polices ARE made elsewhere and I'm afraid, NO change of Government is going to make much difference, no matter WHAT they say.

Political disagreement, I can cope with, and even enjoy a GOOD arguement over a pint, parting as friends. But this, is something else.

The Motorist is NOW Public Enemy No.1 in ALL G8 countries, WHY?

Sincerely, my best Regards: 8Pack.

Caggs

265 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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i've got the balls to agree with you my freind.

Well said!

Caggs-

JMGS4

8,881 posts

292 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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v8 westy said:
social engineering at its worst stage! camera partnerships are the worst example of leftwing self funding taxraising beurocracy!
they are founded on lies and have so far caused so much damage to public confidence in the british police force! they are a complete farce!
welcome the day when real traffic police are reinstalled on motorways and can once again stop numpties and point out dangerous driving errors!
cheapo leftie automatons all of them!
saving pointless jobs and not lives!


It's sooo true!!! well said fella!!
It is rather funny that scamera partnerships and traffic wardens seem to attract the socially inept, educationally disadvantaged, egocentrical, supercilious, elocutionally incapable, inferiority complexed, sandalista types with nazi sorry nasty tendencies.....

CarZee

13,382 posts

289 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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Spot on Carl!

SCP operatives would be traffic wardens if they weren't so fat and lazy - much easier to hide in a van and pick off the motorists with an LTI2020 than to walk the streets and expose themselves to the possibility of receiving the beating they so thoroughly deserve.

Suffice it to say that if the opportunity arose to save the life of an SCPer, I'd decline and walk away.

No - I'm not joking. Death to them all!

>> Edited by CarZee on Tuesday 8th June 13:38

mondeoman

11,430 posts

288 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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Did yo see the prog on tv last night about the traffic wardens - there was a knob on there from Westminster who was a sanctimonious twat of the highest order. On one hand he stated that Local Government wasn't allowed to put in parking restrictions to raise money, thenon the other hand he said that well, if they did make some money out of it then thats just peachy.

Had me swearing at the TV no end.

It was perfectly clear from watching the TWs in action that they were there just to issue tickets - one company regularly disputes every single ticket and 9 out of 10 of them (yeah, thats right, 90%) get thrown out in adjudication!. One of the brewery companies says that their lorries regularly get 9 - 10 tickets a day and its costing them upwards of £150k a year. Westminster raised £39m last year just from parking tickets..

Go on, tell me its not a scam!

swilly

9,699 posts

296 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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Can some one point me in the direction of the thread Scamboy has posted in please.

BlackStuff

463 posts

263 months

Tuesday 8th June 2004
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swilly said:
Can some one point me in the direction of the thread Scamboy has posted in please.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=104095&f=10&h=0
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