Bond....James Bond
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TVR isn't a Bond car.
A Bond car is an expensive, desirable and pretty much un-gettable car for the masses at the time (hence why the BMW's were just oh-so-wrong). They show all that is great and has a name which is universal and anyone in the world knows the answer. James Bond drives Aston Martin's. Now it's debatable if James Bond never drove an Aston would people know the marque, but he does and that's it.
TVR don't ooze the same class IMO, fantastic cars, but they are British (limited export) and don't have that upper-class, respectable name that Aston has forged for itself. TVR to me are brutal, fast, beautiful looking machines that I (as a middle-class, working family) can one day considering owning, Aston Martin I simply couldn't.
A Bond car is an expensive, desirable and pretty much un-gettable car for the masses at the time (hence why the BMW's were just oh-so-wrong). They show all that is great and has a name which is universal and anyone in the world knows the answer. James Bond drives Aston Martin's. Now it's debatable if James Bond never drove an Aston would people know the marque, but he does and that's it.
TVR don't ooze the same class IMO, fantastic cars, but they are British (limited export) and don't have that upper-class, respectable name that Aston has forged for itself. TVR to me are brutal, fast, beautiful looking machines that I (as a middle-class, working family) can one day considering owning, Aston Martin I simply couldn't.
donatien said:
In the books doesn't he drive a Bentley?
Yes.
www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/literature_fleming_cars.php3?t=&s=
donatien said:
In the books doesn't he drive a Bentley?
Yes but worryingly he also drives a Saab turbo..... lovely car, not quite in the right image methinks!
Interestingly, the DB cars weren't selling, and Aston were in serious trouble (when aren't they!) until Goldfinger was released, at which point the sales skyrocketed. Apparently the idea for the rotating numberplate came from the director, Guy Hamilton, who'd just been done for speeding, and wished he could have had a choice of false plates!
Might cramp Bonds style a bit !!!!
Errrr Miss Moneypenny get out on push
Whoa joke
I do not think they have segmented the cars to AM BMW etc looking at the range of cars that have featured in the Bond films, and I read it somewhere once that TVR were in discussions with the producers but then the story died.
However regardless of the previous cars now would'nt the original Speed 12 be the ultimate Bond car.
Errrr Miss Moneypenny get out on push
Whoa joke
I do not think they have segmented the cars to AM BMW etc looking at the range of cars that have featured in the Bond films, and I read it somewhere once that TVR were in discussions with the producers but then the story died.
However regardless of the previous cars now would'nt the original Speed 12 be the ultimate Bond car.
The reason that Bond drove a BMW at the start of Brosnans career was that AM got really quite arsey over how many cars they would supply (pre Ford).
They were very specific about how many, when, where and for how long and the producers, in light of the production timescales couldnt be pinned down so said no thanks.
BMW the rocked up and said you can have as many of whatever you like for as long as you like. Hence Bond drove a BMW for a while.
When Ford took over at AM all this changed...
They were very specific about how many, when, where and for how long and the producers, in light of the production timescales couldnt be pinned down so said no thanks.
BMW the rocked up and said you can have as many of whatever you like for as long as you like. Hence Bond drove a BMW for a while.
When Ford took over at AM all this changed...
redleicester said:
In the books doesn't he drive a Bentley?
Yes but worryingly he also drives a Saab turbo..... lovely car, not quite in the right image methinks!
I don't think Fleming ever put him in a Saab. That was done after his death in the execrable books that were produced for purely commercial reasons. Fleming always had him in a Bentley as I recall.
Los Angeles said:The Casino Royale film starring David Niven was never canon (ie. it was never an "official" Bond movie) as was "Never Say Never Again". The former was a spoof and the latter a remake.
Casino Royale is Fleming's first Bond novel and it's the one book Hollywood screwed-up - big time. Fleming always wanted David Niven for Bond. Like Connery, Niven was a Scot, but unlike Connery he knew which knife and fork to use at dinner - so they made Casino Royale in four segments with four different directors and Niven as Bond. Unsurprisingly, the movie sank without trace. I wish the Bond production company would buy the rights to the book to remake it as faithfully as possible to the text.
I agree that Casino Royale was a missed opportunity though. It could have been a superb Bond film.
Los Angeles said:
Casino Royale is Fleming's first Bond novel and it's the one book Hollywood screwed-up - big time.
I wish the Bond production company would buy the rights to the book to remake it as faithfully as possible to the text.
The film of Casino Royale was a total spoof - almost a piss take. I don't think the film makers screwed up, they never intended it to be taken seriously.
I'd like to see how they handled the torture scene in the chair if they ever did make it. (I'm wincing now just thinking about it).
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