ANPR, What do you actually know?

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I have seen quite a few members ask about the meaning of ANPR. I have also seen some explanations about how it works and why it is used.

Here are the facts!

ANPR is Automatic number plate reader.

1. It is a system which is used to monitor traffic not only to enforce traffic legislation but to reduce and detect the use of vehicles for criminal purposes and criminals themselves.

2. The van is not linked in any way to PNC whilst it is in operation.

3. The system is operated by usually two people who watch the screens in the van and pass the information to the stoppers who are either side of the van.

4. The cameras read the number plates of vehicles travelling in both directions and can be isolated to cover either direction depending on the availability of stoppers on each side.

5. The system is a complex computer which is plugged into a main frame system of crime intelligence country wide.
This is done on a daily basis which updates the current information on criminals and their associates and their vehicles. This information is supplied by the bobbies on the beat who watch criminal activity and record stop checks then feed information into the local intelligence systems in thier domestic force.
The information also comes from DVLA and the Insurance database.

6. The main frame Criminal Intelligence System (CIS) computer is shared by all forces in England and Wales.

7. The daily downloads into the ANPR system cater for over 90 million seperate files.

8. The time taken between a vehicle travelling through the reader and being checked against 90 million files then being displayed on the screen in front of the operator is 0.2 seconds.

9. The operator can attach warning jingles to specific types of offences which are to be targetted as audible warnings highlighting the offence type and information attached.

10. ANPR is usually run by the Roads Policing Dept and has the ability to get RP officers at the top of the arrests for crime league.

11. ANPR can be used in the dark as the lenses have expensive infra red filters that block out headlamp light and allow the number to be read just as in normal daylight.

12. The whole operation is constantly videoed with a digital system which has the capablilty of enhancement to identify drivers faces.

13. Policemen/women like ANPR





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[Dwight VanDriver]

Thanks for that Gone and for explaining the data base as I wondered how they linked DVLA/PNC/Insurance Records etc.

Read an interesting article in PR ( your description better) that under Project Laser between June 2003 and May 2004

12,500 arrests
47,000 FPN
Eight million quids worth of property recovered amongst which 1,050 vehicles
&400,000 worth of drugs recovered
Over &1m in hypothecated fines income generated

all from pulling 16O,000 vehicles.

Wow, but does this do away with the policemans nose?

DVD

(Wont mention how they are looking at merging ANPR with EVI and countermeasures against the doctored plates. Looks like in the next 5 years if you pass wind in a car it will be electronically detected, analysed, smell rated and a print out from what meal.
Oh yes, pushing this thrust is R.B., you know the Welsh chappie CC.)

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Dwight VanDriver said:

Wow, but does this do away with the policemans nose? DVD

No, not at all. Quite a few nicks are self generated by officers on these checks. They wait at junctions where other traffic happens to pass but does not go through the ANPR reader.

The operators in the van can do instant checks on the registration numbers of vehicles that are seen by officers and called into the van. They merely tap in the index on the keyboard and the information is in front of them 0.2 seconds later. The whole of the process is videoed on digital system too.

DVD said:

(Wont mention how they are looking at merging ANPR with EVI and countermeasures against the doctored plates. Looks like in the next 5 years if you pass wind in a car it will be electronically detected, analysed, smell rated and a print out from what meal. Oh yes, pushing this thrust is R.B., you know the Welsh chappie CC.)

Unfortunately that is the way it is going. I think in 5 years, most sports car drivers and car enthusiast will only dare to let rip when they have paid £50 for their 10 laps on a race track!!!

[cptsideways]

All that marvellous technology still wont detect a cloned plate though !

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cptsideways said:

All that marvellous technology still wont detect a cloned plate though !

Coppers nose is also there and often turns up trumps!

[cptsideways]

And it's only as up to date as the DVLA records which are not exactly clever at the best of times.

It's still possible to tax a car still not registered in ones name.

So the driver who's pulled is not always the person on the records.

The basics of the system are still flawed I'm afraid to say.

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cptsideways said:

And it's only as up to date as the DVLA records which are not exactly clever at the best of times. It's still possible to tax a car still not registered in ones name. So the driver who's pulled is not always the person on the records. The basics of the system are still flawed I'm afraid to say.

Aha, you see, you are not thinking of the bigger picture!

Any vehicle which is not registered is pinged up as such. The jingle in the last van I happened to be in for this marker was Homer Simpsons "Doh"!

Any previous keeper is treated in the same way.

A stopper will stop the vehicle and from that point onwards register the vehicle to you via form CLE2/8.
The vehicle will be registered to the driver who will be dealt with for any offences within 2 working days so that any further enquiries will have a point of reference from that particular driver

The Police are only too glad to help in registering vehicles to people that may have been sloppy in their adminstration when taking delivery of the local chav communal transport item

[cptsideways]

Ah but thats only if the old keeper has de registered it surely?

I notice that DVLA are sending out a letter saying thank you for telling us, but what if they have'nt?

Assuming the seller has just handed over their entire reg doc at the point of sale to the new "user".

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cptsideways said:

Ah but thats only if the old keeper has de registered it surely? I notice that DVLA are sending out a letter saying thank you for telling us, but what if they have'nt? Assuming the seller has just handed over their entire reg doc at the point of sale to the new "user".

That is a possibility, but! it is an offence now to fail to tax the vehicle or inform SORN before the expiry of the old one. £80 FPT sent to previous owner who does not do so!

You rely on having the vehicles previous owner not sending the required information to DVLA.

You also rely on a Police motor cyclist perusing your 'chav' mota and getting the old hairs on the back of the neck syndrome resulting in a pull and some awkward questions to answer.

Still, if you reherse the answers enough, you may get away with it

[plotloss]

Aside from the camera bit, the database back end sounds a complete piece of piss.

I bet this cost millions as well

[BliarOut]

By gone's own admission, jingles such as Batman, and now Homer Simpson are used inside an ANPR van. No wonder they are so popular, the day must be a right hoot to work in

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plotloss said:

Aside from the camera bit, the database back end sounds a complete piece of piss.

Seems to be very effective piss then!

I was on an ANPR job last week when a car went through with a marker attached to it as being involved in firearms offences and also the theft of laptop computers. I took the two occupants on and the driver had a bottle of methodone in his pocket when challenged. I then looked in the car and there were 2 laptops behind the front seats. An inspection of the boot revealed 2 more laptops.

Qustion from me to the driver

Gone = "There are 4 laptops in the car and only 2 of you. That means 2 laptops each and I do believe that you will be able to tell me the exact makes and types of machines?"

Driver = Gormless shrug of shoulders

Gone to passenger = "so then you must be able to tell me about them"

Passenger looks at driver and gives gormless shrug of shoulders.

Gone = "You two are arrested on suspicion of theft of laptops".

This car was a J reg XR3i, quite tidy, taxed and insured. The information was from a force which is two counties away from my own. These were villains from that area that we did not know about (we do now )

The laptops belonged to Iceland, Tescoe, a Dutch gentleman and one which had been wiped clean and re-configured only hours before.

The passenger was wearing a custody monitoring tag and had only just been released days before from prison.

The value of the lap tops in that car exceeded £8,000

plotless said:

I bet this cost millions as well

It did. But is it worth it? I think so!

[plotloss]

Dont doubt the effectiveness of it at all, but I read about these government IT projects and the costs and timescales and someone somewhere is sitting on a beach with a laptop having a right laugh.

For the back end of this, 2 men, one month, testing aside.

Easy peasy.

I'm glad its there, dont get me wrong, but technically its childs play.

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BliarOut said:

By gone's own admission, jingles such as Batman, and now Homer Simpson are used inside an ANPR van. No wonder they are so popular, the day must be a right hoot to work in

The Basil fawlty attack on the bonnet of his Austin 1100 with the tree branch is one of the best

used for vehicles involved in car crime!

[cptsideways]

gone said:

cptsideways said: Ah but thats only if the old keeper has de registered it surely? I notice that DVLA are sending out a letter saying thank you for telling us, but what if they have'nt? Assuming the seller has just handed over their entire reg doc at the point of sale to the new "user". That is a possibility, but! it is an offence now to fail to tax the vehicle or inform SORN before the expiry of the old one. £80 FPT sent to previous owner who does not do so! You rely on having the vehicles previous owner not sending the required information to DVLA. You also rely on a Police motor cyclist perusing your 'chav' mota and getting the old hairs on the back of the neck syndrome resulting in a pull and some awkward questions to answer. Still, if you reherse the answers enough, you may get away with it

Ah but you can still tax a vehicle not registered in your own name, you just need the green slip & an insurance document, this still does not change the registered keeper.

I think you might just find that there are an awful lot of Non-Chav Mota's out there that are not exactly spine chillingly obvious targets, due no doubt to the current level draconian licence losing enforcement!

PS all our cars are registered in our names BTW!

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[EnDubya]

gone said:

The value of the lap tops in that car exceeded £8,000 plotless said: I bet this cost millions as well It did. But is it worth it? I think so!

Cheaper to nail a note to the forehead of the laptops' ex-owners: "I must look after my property. I must be responsible for my (in)actions."

[cptsideways]

Quick question?

Obviously the DVLA database cross ref's the insurance database to check if the vehicle is insured.

But will it flag up the above scenario?

[plotloss]

Easiest way to defeat it is to put a law abiders plates on your car...

Hes a good citizen and not speeding, let him past.

Chortle says the cloning criminal...

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plotloss said:

Easiest way to defeat it is to put a law abiders plates on your car... Hes a good citizen and not speeding, let him past. Chortle says the cloning criminal...

ANPR do not have speed monitoring equipment inside them attached to them, beamed down from space around them!

The chortling cloner will have his moment, trust me they are getting caught every day by ANPR!

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cptsideways said:

Quick question? Obviously the DVLA database cross ref's the insurance database to check if the vehicle is insured. But will it flag up the above scenario?

Yes it will.