sump leak
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minkybob

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341 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Need to take the sump off to reseal it.
With all the oil drained from the system will I need to prime the oil pump after? in my 1999 450.

Cheers

del 203

12,728 posts

280 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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No

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Johno

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313 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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del 203 said:
No

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This, but you may consider turning it over on the key with the king lead off to get the oil light out and then start up normally with the king lead back in place, a small safety net should you have forgotten to put the sump plug back in beore filling up hehe

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Johno said:
del 203 said:
No

smile
This, but you may consider turning it over on the key with the king lead off to get the oil light out and then start up normally with the king lead back in place, a small safety net should you have forgotten to put the sump plug back in beore filling up hehe
TBH, I think that is one of the urban myths spreading around out of control. The bearings don't rely on actual oil pressure to make them 'float', the eccentricity makes even the smooth surfaces act like a gyrator oil pump creating much higher pressures than you see at the oil pump on the bearing surface. Except for priming all the galleries of a freshly built or long standing stagnant engine I think cranking over is as likely to do as much harm as good?

Simon says

19,462 posts

252 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Surely not with the spark plugs fitted Dave scratchchin well to a lessening effect anyway smile

Ribol

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289 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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spend said:
The bearings don't rely on actual oil pressure to make them 'float', the eccentricity makes even the smooth surfaces act like a gyrator oil pump creating much higher pressures than you see at the oil pump on the bearing surface.
Main bearings don't "float" anyway, cranks do, don't you people know anything hehe

Simon says

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Ribol said:
spend said:
The bearings don't rely on actual oil pressure to make them 'float', the eccentricity makes even the smooth surfaces act like a gyrator oil pump creating much higher pressures than you see at the oil pump on the bearing surface.
Main bearings don't "float" anyway, cranks do, don't you people know anything hehe
I hope you pay for that remark young man hehe

Johno

8,593 posts

313 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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spend said:
TBH, I think that is one of the urban myths spreading around out of control. The bearings don't rely on actual oil pressure to make them 'float', the eccentricity makes even the smooth surfaces act like a gyrator oil pump creating much higher pressures than you see at the oil pump on the bearing surface. Except for priming all the galleries of a freshly built or long standing stagnant engine I think cranking over is as likely to do as much harm as good?
As said, it's more to ensure yuo've not done anything stooopid on the way through than any real attempt to gain operating pressure.

Like all the procedures for warming the engine up, nothing is as good as just driving it below certain revs until it's at operating temp. Simple often best.

Rather than urban myth, think cautious approach. A good example would be spanning on a Radical at Donington a few years ago when the owner had done an oil change, turn it on and fired it up for it to quickly dump a lot of oil into the undertray . . reason turned out to be a nipped gasket at the oil filter, turning it over on the starter would have shown it without spewing 3ltrs of oil all over the undertray and pit garage floor hehe

As for more harm than good, it really takes very little to extinguish the OP light, if you're cranking away for an age then you have done something really wrong which may have been even worse had you started it.

Do I do this every time I do an oil change every 3k, er no hehe

minkybob

Original Poster:

341 posts

202 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Thanks for the help.

So in theory I can drain the oil reseal the sump (gasket or silicone? over say two evening's refill the car with oil then the engine over with the dizzy lead of and all should be good?

Cheers

Ribol

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289 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Simon says said:
I hope you pay for that remark young man hehe
<<<<<<< if you look carefully you may just spot my screen name shaking hehe

Simon says

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Ribol said:
Simon says said:
I hope you pay for that remark young man hehe
<<<<<<< if you look carefully you may just spot my screen name shaking hehe
I bet you loved the young man bit whistle ... wavey

Ribol

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Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Simon says said:
I bet you loved the young man bit whistle ... wavey
Nobody likes to be accused of having little experience (knowledge) wink

Simon says

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Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Ribol said:
Simon says said:
I bet you loved the young man bit whistle ... wavey
Nobody likes to be accused of having little experience (knowledge) wink
Oh I don't care scratchchin who me? furious .... hehe

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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Make sure you look up inside the oil pickup, that's probably where you'll find half of the old gasket.